Old 05-04-2012, 12:49   #1
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SFQC Statistics

This is a bit dated (1995), but I would imagine most of the information is fairly consistent with current numbers. If any other SF hopefuls can take some useful information from it, especially in regards to selecting an MOS, great. If not helpful, it's at least interesting.

http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc...f&AD=ADA292902
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Old 05-04-2012, 13:52   #2
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This is a bit dated (1995), but I would imagine most of the information is fairly consistent with current numbers. If any other SF hopefuls can take some useful information from it, especially in regards to selecting an MOS, great. If not helpful, it's at least interesting.

http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc...f&AD=ADA292902
So, what you are advocating here is to look at the research, and based on the document of which course was easiest (or where the candidates were most successful) THEN CHOOSE the MOS you want to train in?

If that's the case, that is one of the most keen demonstrations that you do not have a clue how Special Forces Soldiers think that I have ever come across.

There are reasons that we excell at our chosen profession moreso than any other subset of Soldiers in the Army-
We do not care about statistics
We do not care how hard it is
We do not look for the "easy" anything

Finally, I am going to borrow a phrase that has been used here before...
SF is not a choice, it is not something that we "thought we wanted to do"...it was a calling. A calling that has huge challenges attached to it. And that challenge is one of the reasons it called to each of us. It is the thing that sets us apart.

Please, feel free to choose the easy route with as few cobblestones on your perfect roadway as you can manage. That way, should you make it to SFAS, it will be that much easier for you to take that same road right back where you came from.
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Old 05-04-2012, 14:45   #3
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Too early

They did the study one year too early. Not all students in 1989 were SFAS grads.

Those who were not and were recycled had to go to SFAS to continue in the SF Course.

The pass rate for those individuals was a crap shoot based on the individual. Some passed - others returned to the orderly room to be sent to Big Army.

I'd say by late 89 all the non-SFAS students had graduated, recycled through SFAS - or been sent on to Big Army.
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Old 05-04-2012, 15:00   #4
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So, what you are advocating here is to look at the research, and based on the document of which course was easiest (or where the candidates were most successful) THEN CHOOSE the MOS you want to train in?

If that's the case, that is one of the most keen demonstrations that you do not have a clue how Special Forces Soldiers think that I have ever come across.

There are reasons that we excell at our chosen profession moreso than any other subset of Soldiers in the Army-
We do not care about statistics
We do not care how hard it is
We do not look for the "easy" anything

Finally, I am going to borrow a phrase that has been used here before...
SF is not a choice, it is not something that we "thought we wanted to do"...it was a calling. A calling that has huge challenges attached to it. And that challenge is one of the reasons it called to each of us. It is the thing that sets us apart.

Please, feel free to choose the easy route with as few cobblestones on your perfect roadway as you can manage. That way, should you make it to SFAS, it will be that much easier for you to take that same road right back where you came from.
Terrific job explaining to that young man what SF is really all about,it starts with the calling........

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Old 05-04-2012, 15:15   #5
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Makes me proud to proclaim - I was a 50%er. Or was that 32% of those that recycled SOMED at least once before completing SFQC as an 18D. (It made me a better medic!)

But then again I didn't do SFAS it was called SFOT in '88 before this study.

For the OP, you and others do what you feel best, but if you are not up for the challenge why even apply? As Eagle5US said, SF is a calling, not just a job in the Army.

Also, back in '88 most of us didn't get to choose what MOS we wanted after selection. A committee used ASVAB and other pre-selection tests to best fill the ranks. They wanted me to go through 18E training, I asked to be a medic instead. I'm glad they allowed me the opportunity.
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