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Old 07-03-2017, 07:47   #31
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I've been on an E.H. Taylor small batch kick lately. It received a double gold medal at the San Francisco World Spirits competition this year, and it's not too pricey at $42/bottle. It may be difficlut to locate, and I'm surprised I can find it less than 10 minutes away from my home in the Utah Caliphate.

If you can find the single barrel ($60/btl), it might be worth a go, too. It beat out the Pappy Van Winkle 23 year in 2012.
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Year to year, batch to batch, and even barrel to barrel, it changes.

Consider that with all of the premium selections today, the overall quality of the more common stuff has got to be down.

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Old 07-03-2017, 19:14   #33
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Year to year, batch to batch, and even barrel to barrel, it changes.

Consider that with all of the premium selections today, the overall quality of the more common stuff has got to be down.

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Out of curiosity I looked up the Clan name, not sure who McPhail is but a Gordon should know something of the fine spirit. Looks like a good place to gain some understanding.

https://www.gordonandmacphail.com/about-us/

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Edit: Penn , I saw an add here in Colorado for a small distillery that made me think...." The difference between us and many other distillers is that we actually have a distiller".
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Old 07-03-2017, 22:20   #34
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So I'm cheap. Anybody else like Old Crow?
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Old 07-04-2017, 21:14   #35
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I've been on an E.H. Taylor small batch kick lately. It received a double gold medal at the San Francisco World Spirits competition this year, and it's not too pricey at $42/bottle. It may be difficlut to locate, and I'm surprised I can find it less than 10 minutes away from my home in the Utah Caliphate.

If you can find the single barrel ($60/btl), it might be worth a go, too. It beat out the Pappy Van Winkle 23 year in 2012.
Just finished my bottle of E.H. Taylor Single Barrel. That and the small batch are two of my current favorites. For best bang for the buck, I like Buffalo Trace and Evan Williams Single Barrel.
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Old 07-05-2017, 06:56   #36
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There is going to be a radical transformation in the industry as the new boutique distillery enter the market. A market that has been more than comfortable, not competing.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/24/bu...lers.html?_r=0
I know Penn's post is older, but these boutique brands are popping up constantly and most can be traced back to just a few distilleries. Rather than distill their own spirits, they order a blended recipe to achieve a flavor profile from a major distiller that provides the spirits for many different brands. One of the largest is in Southern Indiana. And if you are a fan of the many Rye whiskeys that have come to market in the last few years, you thank this distiller's acquisition of the defunct Seagram's high rye that was in barrels when they went under.

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Lawrenceburg, Indiana (not to be confused with bourbon-locale Lawrenceburg, Kentucky) is home to a massive brick complex that cranks out mega-industrial quantities of beverage-grade alcohol. The factory, once a Seagram distillery, has changed hands over the decades and was most recently acquired by food-ingredient corporation MGP. It is now a one-stop shop for marketers who want to bottle their own brands of spirits without having to distill the product themselves. MGP sells them bulk vodka and gin, as well as a large selection of whiskies, including bourbons of varying recipes, wheat whiskey, corn whiskey, and rye. (They also make “food grade industrial alcohol” used in everything from solvents and antiseptics to fungicides.) Their products are well-made, but hardly what one thinks of as artisanal. And yet, much of the whiskey now being sold as the hand-crafted product of micro-distilleries actually comes from this one Indiana factory.
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The following is a listing of whiskeys that are likely distilled by MGP:

31 N 50 Bourbon (Dry Diggings)
4 Spirits Bourbon (4 Spirits)
1888 Bourbon (Diversa Brands)
99 Bottles Bourbon & Rye (PA Private Label Spirits)
Angel's Envy Rye (Louisville Distilling Co.)
Backbone Bourbon (Crossroads Vitners/Strong Spirits)
Belle Meade Bourbon (Nelson's Greenbriar)
Big Ass Bourbon (Strong Spirits)
Big Bottom Bourbon (Big Bottom)
Big House Bourbon (Underdog Spirits)
Big Y Rye (PA Private Label Spirits)
Bone Snapper Rye (Strong Spirits)
Breaker Bourbon (Ascendant Spirits)
Bulleit Rye (Diageo)
Chattanooga Whiskey 1816 Reserve (Chattanooga Whiskey Co.)
Clarion Bourbon and Blended Whiskey (Distilled Spirits Epicenter)
Cleveland Rye Whiskey (Cleveland Whiskey)
Coney Island Carlo Bourbon (Terresentia)
Copper City Straight Bourbon (Arizona Distilling Co.)
Corn Star Corn Whiskey (Bardstown Barrel Selections)
Cougar Bourbon & Rye (Foster's)
Defiance Whiskey (Crown Valley Distilling)
Filibuster Bourbon Rye (M.S. Trading LP)
George Dickel Rye (George Dickel)
George Remus Bourbon & Rye (Queen City Whiskey/Strong Spirits)
Henderson Rye (North Texas Distillers)
High Liquors Bourbon & Rye (High Liquors)
High West (an an element of many of their whiskeys blends)
Homestead Bourbon (Homestead American whiskey)
Hooker's House (some of their bourbons and their rye; Prohibition Spirits)
J. Green Bourbon and Rye (Shadow Beverage Group)
James E. Pepper 1776 Rye (James E. Pepper/Strong Spirits)
J.R. Revelry Bourbon (La Bodega Internacional/Speakeasy Spirits)
Joint Bourbon (Temperance Distilling Co.)
Knotter Bourbon & Rye (Blaum Bros.)
LeMont Rye (PA Private Label Spirits)
Mosswood American Light Whiskey (Mosswood Distillers)
O.K.I. Bourbon and Rye (New Riff Distilling)
Pinhook Bourbon (CJS Beverage Corp.)
Prichard's Rye (Prichard's)
Redemption Bourbon & Rye (Bardstown Barrel Selections)
Riverboat Rye (Bardstown Barrel Selections)
Rough Rider Bourbon & Rye (Long Island Spirits)
Seagram's 7 Blended Whiskey (Diageo)
Single Track Rye (Range and River Distilling)
Smokin' Joe's Bourbon & Rye (PA Private Label Spirits)
Smooth Ambler Old Scout Bourbon, Rye and Corn Whiskey (Smooth Ambler)
Smuggler's Notch Rye
Spirit of America Bourbon (Hobson & Roberts)
Spring Mill Bourbon (Heartland Distillers)
Taos Lightning (KGB Spirits)
Temperance Trader (American Whiskey and some bourbon; Bull Run Distilling)
Templeton Rye (Templeton)
Temptation Bourbon (Bardstown Barrel Selections)
The Saloon Bourbon & Rye (PA Private Label Spirits)
Tin Cup Whiskey (Proximo Spirits)
Troubadour Bourbon (The Original Texas Legend Distillery)
WH Harrison Bourbon (Tipton Spirits)
Widow Jane Rye (Cacao Prieto)
Willett Rye (Indiana ryes)
Winghart's Bourbon & Rye (PA Private Label Spirits)
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I know Penn's post is older, but these boutique brands are popping up constantly and most can be traced back to just a few distilleries.
I found myself gravitating towards certain bourbon's, based on the flavor profile. After reading the following article, I realized it was because many of those I like probably started out with the same mash bill, or recipe. The differences in flavor are due to the difference in ageing and blending.

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The Bourbon Family Tree

...In this chart—excerpted from _The Kings County Distillery Guide to Urban Moonshining, _on shelves now—the guys behind Brooklyn's oldest craft distillery parse out, once and for all, the complicated kissing cousins of the bluegrass state's bourbon industry.

This chart shows the major distilleries operating in Kentucky, Tennessee, and Indiana, grouped horizontally by corporate owner, then subdivided by distillery. Each tree shows the type of whiskey made, and the various expressions of each style of whiskey or mash bill, in the case of bourbons. For instance, Basil Hayden’s is a longer-aged version of Old Grand-Dad, and both are made at the Jim Beam Distillery. Some of this is imprecise. Buffalo Trace has two bourbon mash bills, but it isn’t known which of its many brands are made from each, so this is a rough guess based on online commentary.

http://www.gq.com/story/bourbon-whiskey-family-tree
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