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Old 08-16-2004, 09:23   #16
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I've been carrying/shooting .45 ACP hydrashoks, but I see that the APLP/Lemas is highly favored.

Is there a way to purchase a lot of this ammunition for carry?

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Old 08-17-2004, 10:43   #17
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I've been carrying/shooting .45 ACP hydrashoks, but I see that the APLP/Lemas is highly favored.

Is there a way to purchase a lot of this ammunition for carry?

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Good question Alex,

TR, APLP, or Guy would best be able to answer that one. Gents?
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Old 08-17-2004, 11:00   #18
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I will defer to APLP on who he can sell to.

A non-AP enhanced civilian version of the ammo is marketed by RBCD, IIRC, their site is www.rbcd.net

APLP may also be able to speak on the legalities of the ammo, but I do not believe that any of the versions fall under the statutes regarding AP ammo.

HTH.

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Old 08-17-2004, 11:51   #19
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90 and 115 grain bullets in a .45?

http://www.rbcd.net/Personal%20Defense%20Ammo.htm

Interesting...

Thanks for the link TR.
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90 and 115 grain bullets in a .45?

http://www.rbcd.net/Personal%20Defense%20Ammo.htm

Interesting...

Thanks for the link TR.
I cannot say what the commercial loads will do, but from a 3.5" Para P12 at 7 yards, every round of the 90gr. LeMas will cleanly hole a 1/4" hardened aluminum armor plate, or a 11 ga. Stainless steel panel.

FYI, 230 gr. Hydrashock will barely make a mark on the aluminum, and will moderately dent, but not penetrate the stainless.

Good stuff!

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Old 08-17-2004, 14:37   #21
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I was reading some of the testimonials on their site, and it looks to be very popular among the professionals.

Now to find a stocking dealer....
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Old 08-17-2004, 17:05   #22
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I have posted these before, but here is the LeMas and Hydrashok shots on aluminum armor, from the Para P-12 3.5" barrel.

HTH explain better.

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Old 08-17-2004, 17:06   #23
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Here are the same loads on stainless steel plate.

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Anybody need to see the hard target penetration capability in video, or will you take my word for it?

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Old 08-17-2004, 18:37   #25
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Anybody need to see the hard target penetration capability in video, or will you take my word for it?

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I will take your word for it, but I'd like to see the video again too!
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Anybody need to see the hard target penetration capability in video, or will you take my word for it?

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I'm a believer. I wish I could purchase some of this stuff. Too bad former military don't count as end users.
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I will take your word for it, but I'd like to see the video again too!
Speaking of wanting to see a video...
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Sorry, can't currently be posted due to site restrictions.

Got someone working on it.

It is a VERY impressive MP-5SD full auto clip.

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Speaking of wanting to see a video...
As soon as we catch someone, we'll get a clip posted. Surveillance is underway!
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Here are the same loads on stainless steel plate.

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DAMMMMMM!!!!!!

Im sold on the Lemas!!! I will definately make them apart of my basic load. Thanks TR
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