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Old 08-08-2015, 05:46   #31
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We always had operations out trying to catch Charlie infiltrating stuff across the border.

I got to know the AO pretty well as we always had to commo guys on the team and I could go on all the missions I wanted.

Anyways-sometimes we'd see explosions in the air along the border. These were the AF dropping drumsof CS crystals and them exploding above ground dusting the area.

It was thick canopy and vegitation, so don't know how effective that was.

Usually nearby was an unexploded drum of CS that had busted open and left a carpet of the crystals that activated when crunched.
We walked into more than one "forgotten" CS drop..

We did likewise, but threw in NP to burn a hole in the canopy.

Some pics of a "bombing run" NNE of Nui Ba Dinh, along the Cam border. We had them rigged under a Chinook and lit them with smoke grenades.

Not sure how effective it was. If we hit a good trail, they would just move to the left or right 1K the next night.
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Old 08-16-2015, 20:56   #32
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Hmmmm ...

08-1980.

Wonder if it's still good?

Maybe the next SF picnic we'll find out.
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Old 08-16-2015, 22:50   #33
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Hmmmm ...

08-1980.

Wonder if it's still good?

Maybe the next SF picnic we'll find out.
How about trying it out at the code pink or blm picnic?
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Old 08-17-2015, 05:14   #34
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Hmmmm ...

08-1980.

Wonder if it's still good?

Maybe the next SF picnic we'll find out.

I don't think there is a shelf life on CS?? Some of the shiite we used had roman numerals carved in the clay amphorae..
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Old 08-30-2015, 14:50   #35
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For some strange reason, I collect CS/CN/OC chemical agents.


If anyone has any stuff and is willing to sell, hit me up.

Loved the stories, by the way. Keep 'em coming.
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Old 08-30-2015, 22:25   #36
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I'd like to sneak in a question if I may, Golf1Echo was here for a visit a few days ago and we were talking about our Basic Training experiences. At Ft. Polk, in 1967, the gas chamber was 3 rooms: CN (or CS), Chlorine, and DM (vomiting gas). The tear gas to let you know it was "real" and the mask worked, chlorine to let you know it was lethal, and DM to teach you how to help someone affected. G1E never heard of that training. I'm sure several here went through it so does anyone know when it was phased out and why?

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Pat,,

Spring of 68, Basic, Ft Jackson,, and fall/spring, 68-69 OCS, Ft Benning,, best recollection is CS only?

Summer 68, AIT-13E, Ft Sill,, to hot, beer garden every day at 1600..

We had classes but no "hands on" training of other "gases"??


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Old 08-31-2015, 12:02   #38
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Pat,,

Spring of 68, Basic, Ft Jackson,, and fall/spring, 68-69 OCS, Ft Benning,, best recollection is CS only?

Summer 68, AIT-13E, Ft Sill,, to hot, beer garden every day at 1600..

We had classes but no "hands on" training of other "gases"??


So, I was in the Last Hard Gas Class?

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They exposed you to chlorine gas? I thought that was super deadly. I made it by accident and gave my poor mother a coronary.
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They exposed you to chlorine gas? I thought that was super deadly. I made it by accident and gave my poor mother a coronary.
Exposed, yes. We didn't breath it. We broke the seal then cleared and resealed it. The worst part, after the fact, was the lingering smell of "apple blossoms" from the tear gas and bleach smell from the chlorine. Oh, and the vomit smell from the guys who hit their pants or boots in the DM room. Dinner chow SUCKED!

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Exposed, yes. We didn't breath it. We broke the seal then cleared and resealed it. The worst part, after the fact, was the lingering smell of "apple blossoms" from the tear gas and bleach smell from the chlorine. Oh, and the vomit smell from the guys who hit their pants or boots in the DM room. Dinner chow SUCKED!

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You were reliving that experience there for several days Pat it was great to meet you all and thank you for the hospitality! Beautiful country, I miss it.
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You were reliving that experience there for several days
Not really. We were in the WW2 Barracks (like the FMJ pic below) and had to strip the wax off the floors, re-dye, wax, and buff them every night. To do that we had to move the bunks and wall lockers into the central part and do the bunk area first, wait for the dye to dry then paste wax them with Johnson's wax, let it dry, then buff. Then we moved the bunks and wall lockers back, placed them on wood blocks, and did the same to the central area. While waiting for the dye and wax to dry, we would hang out in the latrine. That gave us plenty of time to wash our fatigues and shower. Downside was that we got very little sleep. I would always volunteer for first or second Fire Guard shift because we were all still awake then.

I'm glad you were able to make it out to visit.

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I remembr the multi-gas chamber at Ft Polk in 1966.

They said it was Chlorine.
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I remembr the multi-gas chamber at Ft Polk in 1966.

They said it was Chlorine.
Did you have three rooms, with the DM gas in the last one? That was the most memorable.

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