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Old 03-21-2018, 10:45   #16
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You forgot at least two and maybe a third that will wish this never got started. They are in order: WJC, BHO, and GWB. (Might add Linsey Graham and hopefully before he dies - John McCain - who by the way helped instigate the whole charade of the Steele dossier.)
IMHO, the starting point is the unelected professional bureaucrats. Expose them, prosecute them, and reveal the tyranny. Then proceed to removing the elected professional political class (McCain, Flake, et al.) via the electoral process. At least that's how I see the constitutional process working.
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Old 03-21-2018, 11:06   #17
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It is best to know who in your area is involved. Plus you don't have to travel so far.
+1 "He's makin' a list & checkin' it twice..."
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Old 03-21-2018, 11:25   #18
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IMHO, the starting point is the unelected professional bureaucrats. Expose them, prosecute them, and reveal the tyranny. Then proceed to removing the elected professional political class (McCain, Flake, et al.) via the electoral process. At least that's how I see the constitutional process working.
I just hope to see them perp walked from their houses to awaiting black (helicopters) SUVs with the good guys wearing FBI emblazoned on their jackets live on CNN.
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Old 03-21-2018, 14:58   #19
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Democrat suggests 'Second Amendment' remedy vs. Trump

Another example of how civil wars happen?



Then again, haven't they already started?

https://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/homep...ile/index.html
Rep Tom Suozzi is talking from both sides of his face. It seems that he is actually anti-gun... or not...

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I joined @RepPeteKing on @TheLeadCNN to talk about the need for Republicans and Democrats to come together on reducing gun violence. Americans want us to work together and get this done now!
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Today I joined members of Congress and thousands of students for #NationalWalkoutDay outside the U.S. Capitol in an effort to pass commonsense legislation to reduce gun violence. Here's the first video. #EnoughIsEnough
How could someone like these even mention the Second Amendment with a straight face?
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Old 03-21-2018, 15:19   #20
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I just hope to see them perp walked from their houses to awaiting black (helicopters) SUVs with the good guys wearing FBI emblazoned on their jackets live on CNN.
I have that same vision in my head! Best thing that could happen to restore public credibility of the FBI and DoJ IMO.
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Old 03-21-2018, 15:27   #21
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I have that same vision in my head! Best thing that could happen to restore public credibility of the FBI and DoJ IMO.
Yes, it would in fact be a good start to rebuild that credibility. While at the same time watching the MSN eat crow.
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We talking South American-style helicopter rides?
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+1 "He's makin' a list & checkin' it twice..."
The HuffPo publishes a political campaign donor map that shows the names and addresses of everyone that donates to a particular campaign. Makes it easy for you to clean up your neighborhood.
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Bump-

The last few days to a week have been interesting. Appears that nothing is off-limits and once protected conversations and materials are now a public matter.

There has to be a joke in this somewhere. A wealthy businessman, a wealthy lawyer and a porn star walk into a bar...the bartender looks at the three of them and asks - “which one of you takes it up the ass best?”

Jim Comey’s ‘tell all book’ only tells one story...his!

and, SOTH Paul Ryan and 42 other Republicans and 14 Democrats are extricating themselves from the swamp willingly before they have to endure the coming controversy and unmasking of lies and hypocrisy.

Something tells me no matter what happens this fall or if we get to another presidential election this will not end well for our democracy.

The “Fruit of the Poisonous Tree” has been cut down and officially discarded!
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Old 04-16-2018, 18:51   #25
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The last few days to a week have been interesting. Appears that nothing is off-limits and once protected conversations and materials are now a public matter.

There has to be a joke in this somewhere. A wealthy businessman, a wealthy lawyer and a porn star walk into a bar...the bartender looks at the three of them and asks - “which one of you takes it up the ass best?”

Jim Comey’s ‘tell all book’ only tells one story...his!

and, SOTH Paul Ryan and 42 other Republicans and 14 Democrats are extricating themselves from the swamp willingly before they have to endure the coming controversy and unmasking of lies and hypocrisy.

Something tells me no matter what happens this fall or if we get to another presidential election this will not end well for our democracy.

The “Fruit of the Poisonous Tree” has been cut down and officially discarded!
Some of us may still remember the millions paid out for sexual harassment claims against a bunch of congressmen. The agreement is that nothing will be put out for the public as long as they just go away. That's my bet on why the rush to get out.
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Some of us may still remember the millions paid out for sexual harassment claims against a bunch of congressmen. The agreement is that nothing will be put out for the public as long as they just go away. That's my bet on why the rush to get out.
+1 There are decades-old documents still being witheld on a variety of things (up to & including assassinations) that can only be classified because they would be embarassing to someone still alive OR because it would further (if that's possible) undermine the trust of the American people. In other words, "they (The People) can't know how nefarious & scheming we really are in holding ourselves above the law." The notion, in many cases, of "but... national security!" causes me to cough - as in, ahem-bullshit.
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Old 04-16-2018, 19:15   #27
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Trapper I think we have reached a point where our electoral process is irrelevant. Anyone with a driver's license or the equivalent can vote. They are so stacking the deck that the last election only emboldened them to create new ways to corrupt our elections.
The coordinated unrelenting attacks on our current POTUS from all sides demonstrates the resolve of our opposition. Make no mistake about this...we are in a sea change...
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Old 04-17-2018, 05:01   #28
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42 other Republicans and 14 Democrats are extricating themselves from the swamp willingly before they have to endure the coming controversy and unmasking of lies and hypocrisy.
I knew there were quite a few jumping ship, but I had no idea it was that many.

Something wicked this way comes......kind of reminds of the run up to the stock crash of 2008.
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Old 04-17-2018, 09:00   #29
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The thing about all this is that everything has become so polarized. Despite that, and despite calls for the liberal media for us to come together, it seems like their only goal is to further divide us. I´m sure it is likely linked to trying to publish sensational and attention grabbing stories because those get viewers and in turn, money; however all it really does is turn the country against itself more and more. I understand the people don want their leader to have done something like sleep with a porn star and then pay her off to keep his reputation is tact, but as has been stated before in this thread, it really is not the worst thing that has been done by a government official, hell, he wasn´t even in office at the time it occurred. Really all this attention to the story, which I feel like has been dragged out every night for ages now, is probably just making it harder for things to get done, because it is something else on the administrations plate that really is not needed.
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The thing about all this is that everything has become so polarized. Despite that, and despite calls from the liberal media for us to come together, it seems like their only goal is to further divide us.
What the liberal media means when they call for us to come together is for those on the right to submit.

They speak out of both sides of their mouths, one side bemoans the division between us while the other side promotes and inflames the division.
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