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Old 02-23-2009, 17:42   #16
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The IAA forum is great for things like this. There is a wealth of knowledge over there. Here are a few links:

http://cartridgecollectors.org/forum...pic.php?t=5270

http://cartridgecollectors.org/forum...pic.php?t=3342

http://cartridgecollectors.org/forum...pic.php?t=3439

http://cartridgecollectors.org/forum...pic.php?t=2819
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Old 02-23-2009, 17:59   #17
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Regarding the evolution of blank ammo, the Finnish Defence Forces still use wood bullet blanks in 7.62x39 and 7.62x53R.
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Old 07-14-2009, 18:26   #18
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Since this is a 8MM thread....

I'm starting a reloading Test/project.
It goes like this: Years ago my wife baught 1600 rounds of WWII german 8mm ammo. It is manufactured in 1936 198gr Mauser ammo.

I fired some and liked it. I fired it in my 1941 Obendorff K-98. A real beauty.
The primers are corrosive so I did the cleaning several times. The gun is niot the issue here. The ammo is. I broke down a 15 round box of them today. I collected the powder and weighed each charge, then weighed the bullets.
Powder was 42.9 grs to 43.8 grs and the bullets were 197.8 to 198.6
Not a bad batch for milproduction.
I am going to deprime the brass and reprime with new primers. remeasure each charge of powder at 43.5 grs of the original powder ( it's a really fine flake).
I will chrony these 15 and then decide if I am going to reload all 1600 rounds this way or change powders to an IMR 4064 or RL-15.
Any comments welcome. Dave
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Old 07-15-2009, 05:04   #19
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BLITZZZ:

What is your ultimate goal for this round? 44gr of IMR-4064 coupled with the Sierra Match King in 200gr, "should" bring you pretty close to match accuracy.

Keep in mind, I'm trusting an old and fading memory.
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Old 07-15-2009, 08:12   #20
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I'm starting a reloading Test/project.
It goes like this: Years ago my wife baught 1600 rounds of WWII german 8mm ammo. It is manufactured in 1936 198gr Mauser ammo.

I fired some and liked it. I fired it in my 1941 Obendorff K-98. A real beauty.
The primers are corrosive so I did the cleaning several times. The gun is niot the issue here. The ammo is. I broke down a 15 round box of them today. I collected the powder and weighed each charge, then weighed the bullets.
Powder was 42.9 grs to 43.8 grs and the bullets were 197.8 to 198.6
Not a bad batch for milproduction.
I am going to deprime the brass and reprime with new primers. remeasure each charge of powder at 43.5 grs of the original powder ( it's a really fine flake).
I will chrony these 15 and then decide if I am going to reload all 1600 rounds this way or change powders to an IMR 4064 or RL-15.
Any comments welcome. Dave
Good luck depriming the ammo.

1936 German ammo should be Berdan primed, which will be an adventure to deprime.

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Old 07-15-2009, 09:04   #21
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Thumbs up on the depriming the brass. Not a good idea as I tried today. I averaged the powder to 43.5 grs and reloaded the brass.
Bob gives a very good recipe...and i already use it. thanks. That makes me feel better about the load.
I will chony the Geran war rounds and shoot as is. and clean, clean, clean.

I love the 200 grs Sierras, also I shoot a 240 gr Sierra in my 30-06 with 4064 (i think 45.7) that give a ballistic arch transsonic out beyond 1300 meters and groups under .45 MOA at 100. I do really love this round. For some reason it also is very low recoil. Who knows.
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Old 08-07-2009, 05:49   #22
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An additional Note...

The blue plastic rounds we fired in Berlin, Spiraled noticeably and we had to learn the values of the spin before shooting around our team members.
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