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Old 01-30-2018, 06:32   #211
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Daniel Greenfield: "Guns Are How A Civil War Ends... Politics Is How It Starts"

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Authored by Daniel Greenfield via Sultan Knish blog,

(The following is the speech that I delivered this Sunday at the South Carolina Tea Party Coalition Convention in Myrtle Beach.)

There arenít any soldiers marching on CharlestonÖ or Myrtle Beach. Nobodyís getting shot in the streets. Except in ChicagoÖ and Baltimore, Detroit and Washington D.C.

But thatís not a civil war. Itís just what happens when Democrats run a city into the ground. And then they dig a hole in the ground so they can bury it even deeper.

If you look deep enough into that great big Democrat hole, you might even see where Jimmy Hoffa is buried.

But itís not guns that make a civil war. Itís politics.

Guns are how a civil war ends. Politics is how it begins.

How do civil wars happen?

Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they canít settle the question through elections because they donít even agree that elections are how you decide whoís in charge.

Thatís the basic issue here. Who decides who runs the country? When you hate each other but accept the election results, you have a country. When you stop accepting election results, you have a countdown to a civil war.

I know youíre all thinking about President Trump.

He won and the establishment, the media, the democrats, rejected the results. They came up with a whole bunch of conspiracy theories to explain why he didnít really win. It was the Russians. And the FBI. And sexism, Obama, Bernie Sanders and white people.

Itís easier to make a list of the things that Hillary Clinton doesnít blame for losing the election. Itís going to be a short list.

A really short list. Herself.

The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an election. We all know that. But itís not the first time theyíve done this.

The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didnít really win. The Supreme Court gave him the election. Thereís a pattern here.

Trump didnít really win the election. Bush didnít really win the election. Every time a Republican president won an election this century, the Democrats insist he didnít really win.

Now say a third Republican president wins an election in say, 2024.

What are the odds that theyíll say that he didnít really win? Right now, it looks like 100 percent.

What do sure odds of the Dems rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It means they donít accept the results of any election that they donít win.

It means they donít believe that transfers of power in this country are determined by elections.

Thatís a civil war.

Thereís no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to kill a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice. But the Democrats have rejected our system of government.

This isnít dissent. Itís not disagreement.

You can hate the other party. You can think theyíre the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you work harder to win the next election. When you consistently reject the results of elections that you donít win, what you want is a dictatorship.

Your very own dictatorship.

The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to the left, is its own. Whenever Republicans exercise power, itís inherently illegitimate.

The attacks on Trump show that elections donít matter to the left.

Republicans can win an election, but they have a major flaw. Theyíre not leftists.

Thatís what the leftist dictatorship looks like.

The left lost Congress. They lost the White House. So what did they do? They began trying to run the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats.

Every time that a Federal judge issues an order saying that the President of the United States canít scratch his own back without his say so, thatís the civil war.

Our system of government is based on the constitution, but thatís not the system that runs this country.

The leftís system is that any part of government that it runs gets total and unlimited power over the country.

If itís in the White House, then the president can do anything. And I mean anything. He can have his own amnesty for illegal aliens. He can fine you for not having health insurance. His power is unlimited.

Heís a dictator.

But when Republicans get into the White House, suddenly the President canít do anything. He isnít even allowed to undo the illegal alien amnesty that his predecessor illegally invented.

A Democrat in the White House has ďdiscretionĒ to completely decide every aspect of immigration policy. A Republican doesnít even have the ďdiscretionĒ to reverse him.

Thatís how the game is played. Thatís how our country is run.

When Democrats control the Senate, then Harry Reid and his boys and girls are the sane, wise heads that keep the crazy guys in the House in check.

But when Republicans control the Senate, then itís an outmoded body inspired by racism.

When Democrats run the Supreme Court, then it has the power to decide everything in the country. But when Republicans control the Supreme Court, itís a dangerous body that no one should pay attention to.

When a Democrat is in the White House, states arenít even allowed to enforce immigration law. But when a Republican is in the White House, states can create their own immigration laws.

Under Obama, a state wasnít allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying that California is an independent republic and sign treaties with other countries.

The Constitution has something to say about that.

Whether itís Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary, the left moves power around to run the country. If it controls an institution, then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the land.

This is what I call a moving dictatorship.

There isnít one guy in a room somewhere issuing the orders. Instead thereís a network of them. And the network moves around.

If the guys and girls in the network win elections, they can do it from the White House. If they lose the White House, theyíll do it from Congress. If they donít have either one, theyíll use the Supreme Court.

If they donít have either the White House, Congress or the Supreme Court, theyíre screwed. Right?

Nope.

They just go on issuing them through circuit courts and the bureaucracy. State governments announce that theyíre independent republics. Corporations begin threatening and suing the government.

Thereís no consistent legal standard. Only a political one.

Under Obama, states werenít allowed to enforce immigration laws. That was the job of the Federal government. And the states werenít allowed to interfere with the job that the Feds werenít doing.

Okay.

Now Trump comes into office and starts enforcing immigration laws again. And California announces itís a sanctuary state and passes a law punishing businesses that cooperate with Federal immigration enforcement.

So what do we have here?

Itís illegal for states to enforce immigration law because thatís the province of the Federal government. But itís legal for states to ban the Federal government from enforcing immigration law.

The only consistent pattern here is that the left decided to make it illegal to enforce immigration law.

It may do that sometimes under the guise of Federal power or states rights. But those are just fronts. The only consistent thing is that leftist policies are mandatory and opposing them is illegal.

Everything else is just a song and dance routine.

Thatís how it works. Itís the moving dictatorship. Itís the tyranny of the network.

You canít pin it down. Thereís no one office or one guy. Itís a network of them. Itís an ideological dictatorship. Some people call it the deep state. But that doesnít even begin to capture what it is.

To understand it, you have to think about things like the Cold War and Communist infiltration.

A better term than Deep State is Shadow Government.

Parts of the Shadow Government arenít even in the government. They are wherever the left holds power. It can be in the non-profit sector and among major corporations. Power gets moved around like a New York City shell game. Whereís the quarter? Nope, itís not there anymore.

The shadow government is an ideological network. These days it calls itself by a hashtag #Resistance. Under any name, it runs the country. Most of the time we donít realize that. When things are normal, when thereís a Democrat in the White House or a bunch of Democrats in Congress, itís business as usual.

Even with most Republican presidents, you didnít notice anything too out of the ordinary. Sure, the Democrats got their way most of the time. But thatís how the game is usually played.

Itís only when someone came on the scene who didnít play the game by the same rules, that the network exposed itself. The shadow government emerged out of hiding and came for Trump.

And thatís the civil war.

This is a war over who runs the country. Do the people who vote run the country or does this network that can lose an election, but still get its agenda through, run the country?

Weíve been having this fight for a while. But this century things have escalated.

They escalated a whole lot after Trumpís win because the network isnít pretending anymore. It sees the opportunity to delegitimize the whole idea of elections.

Now the network isnít running the country from cover. Itís actually out here trying to overturn the results of an election and remove the president from office.

Itís rejected the victories of two Republican presidents this century.
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Old 01-30-2018, 06:34   #212
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And if we donít stand up and confront it, and expose it for what it is, itís going to go on doing it in every election. And eventually Federal judges are going to gain enough power that they really will overturn elections.

It happens in other countries. If you think it canít happen here, you havenít been paying attention to the left.

Right now, Federal judges are declaring that President Trump isnít allowed to govern because his Tweets show heís a racist. How long until they say that a president isnít even allowed to take office because they donít like his views?

Thatís where weíre headed.

Civil wars swing around a very basic question. The most basic question of them all. Who runs the country?

Is it me? Is it you? Is it Grandma? Or is it bunch of people who made running the government into their career?

America was founded on getting away from professional government. The British monarchy was a professional government. Like all professional governments, it was hereditary. Professional classes eventually decide to pass down their privileges to their kids.

America was different. We had a volunteer government. Thatís what the Founding Fathers built.

This is a civil war between volunteer governments elected by the people and professional governments elected byÖ wellÖ uhÖ themselves.

Of the establishment, by the establishment and for the establishment.

You know, the people who always say they know better, no matter how many times they screw up, because theyíre the professionals. Theyíve been in Washington D.C. politics since they were in diapers.

Freedom can only exist under a volunteer government. Because everyone is in charge. Power belongs to the people.

A professional government is going to have to stamp out freedom sooner or later. Freedom under a professional government can only be a fiction. Whenever the people disagree with the professionals, theyíre going to have to get put down. Thatís just how it is. No matter how itís disguised, a professional government is tyranny.

Ours is really well disguised, but if it walks like a duck and locks you up like a duck, itís a tyranny.

Now whatís the left.

Forget all the deep answers. The left is a professional government.

Itís whole idea is that everything needs to be controlled by a big central government to make society just. That means everything from your soda sizes to whether you can mow your lawn needs to be decided in Washington D.C.

Volunteer governments are unjust. Professional governments are fair. Thatís the credo of the left.

Its network, the one we were just discussing, it takes over professional governments because it shares their basic ideas. Professional governments, no matter who runs them, are convinced that everything should run through the professionals. And the professionals are usually lefties. If they arenít, they will be.

Just ask Mueller and establishment guys like him.

What infuriates professional government more than anything else? An amateur, someone like President Trump who didnít spend his entire adult life practicing to be president, taking over the job.

President Trump is what volunteer government is all about.

When youíre a government professional, youíre invested in keeping the system going. But when youíre a volunteer, you can do all the things that the experts tell you canít be done. You can look at the mess weíre in with fresh eyes and do the common sense things that President Trump is doing.

And common sense is the enemy of government professionals. Itís why Trump is such a threat.

A Republican government professional would be bad enough. But a Republican government volunteer does that thing youíre not supposed to do in governmentÖ think differently.

Professional government is a guild. Like medieval guilds. You canít serve in if youíre not a member. If you havenít been indoctrinated into its arcane rituals. If you arenít in the club.

And Trump isnít in the club. He brought in a bunch of people who arenít in the club with him.

Now weíre seeing what the pros do when amateurs try to walk in on them. They spy on them, they investigate them and they send them to jail. They use the tools of power to bring them down.

Thatís not a free country.

Itís not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an ďinsurance policyĒ against Trump winning the election. Itís not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition. Itís not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media. Itís not a free country when all of the above collude together to overturn an election because the guy who wasnít supposed to win, won.

Weíre in a civil war between conservative volunteer government and leftist professional government.

The pros have made it clear that theyíre not going to accept election results anymore. Theyíre just going to make us do whatever they want. Theyíre in charge and we better do what they say.

Thatís the war weíre in. And itís important that we understand that.

Because this isnít a shooting war yet. And I donít want to see it become one.

And before the shooting starts, civil wars are fought with arguments. To win, you have to understand what the big picture argument is. Itís easy to get bogged down in arguments that donít matter or wonít really change anything.

This is the argument that changes everything.

Do we have a government of the people and by the people? Or do we have a tyranny of the professionals?

The Democrats try to dress up this argument in leftist social justice babble. Those fights are worth having. But sometimes we need to pull back the curtain on what this is really about.

Theyíve tried to rig the system. Theyíve done it by gerrymandering, by changing the demographics of entire states through immigration, by abusing the judiciary and by a thousand different tricks.

But civil wars come down to an easy question. Who runs the country?

Theyíve given us their answer and we need to give them our answer.

Both sides talk about taking back the country. But who are they taking it back for?

The left uses identity politics. It puts supposed representatives of entire identity groups up front. Weíre taking the country back for women and for black people, and so on and so forthÖ

But nobody elected their representatives.

Identity groups donít vote for leaders. All the black people in the country never voted to make Shaun King al Al Sharpton their representative. And women sure as hell didnít vote for Hillary Clinton.

What we have in America is a representative government. A representative government makes freedom possible because it actually represents people, instead of representing ideas.

The leftís identity politics only represents ideas. Nobody gets to vote on them.

Instead the left puts out representatives from different identity politics groups, thereís your gay guy, thereís three women, thereís a black man, as fronts for their professional government system.

When theyíre taking back the country, itís always for professional government. Itís never for the people.

When conservatives fight to take back the country, itís for the people. Itís for volunteer government the way that the Founding Fathers wanted it to be.

This is a civil war over whether the American people are going to govern themselves. Or are they going to be governed.

Are we going to have a government of the people, by the people and for the peopleÖ or are we going to have a government.

The kind of government that most countries have where a few special people decide whatís best for everyone.

We tried that kind of government under the British monarchy. And we had a revolution because we didnít like it.

But that revolution was met with a counterrevolution by the left. The left wants a monarchy. It wants King Obama or Queen Oprah.

It wants to end government of the people, by the people and for the people. Thatís what theyíre fighting for. Thatís what weíre fighting against. The stakes are as big as theyíre ever going to get. Do elections matter anymore?

I live in the state of Ronald Reagan. I can go visit the Ronald Reagan Library any time I want to. But today California has one party elections. There are lots of elections and propositions. Thereís all the theater of democracy, but none of the substance. Its political system is as free and open as the Soviet Union.

And that can be America.

The Trump years are going to decide if America survives. When his time in office is done, weíre either going to be California or a free nation once again.

The civil war is out in the open now and we need to fight the good fight. And we must fight to win.

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Old 01-30-2018, 08:55   #213
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Here is another look at how Greenfield sees this:

"The left is a treasonous movement. The Democrats became a treasonous organization when they fell under the sway of a movement that rejects our system of government, its laws, and its elections. Now their treason is coming to a head."


I don't think he is wrong.
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If we the people of this great nation cannot get an Article V Convention of States together, and impose term limits and length of stay in politics, then we will forever be burdened by professional politicians hence tyranny. And that will last until enough armed citizenry decide to end such.
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SFSHOOTER- I agree with you that term limits are needed to reverse the course of our Nation. The other day, I had a gentleman come to my door and ask if I would be voting for my Republican representative. I told him that I have voted for him over the past 8-12 years, but I have instituted my own term limit police and will no longer vote for most incumbent (professional) politicians. The bad thing is, the politician has actually done some good for this region and he supports my positions; however, I am sick and tired of the ďrulingĒ class. Unfortunately, it will probably amount to a wasted vote on an unknown, as most people are too lazy to evaluate other candidates. I truly hope for a term limit legislation, soon, but I doubt it will happen. Theyíre sure as hell not going to vote for their own term limits!
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SFSHOOTER- I agree with you that term limits are needed to reverse the course of our Nation. The other day, I had a gentleman come to my door and ask if I would be voting for my Republican representative. I told him that I have voted for him over the past 8-12 years, but I have instituted my own term limit police and will no longer vote for most incumbent (professional) politicians. The bad thing is, the politician has actually done some good for this region and he supports my positions; however, I am sick and tired of the ďrulingĒ class. Unfortunately, it will probably amount to a wasted vote on an unknown, as most people are too lazy to evaluate other candidates. I truly hope for a term limit legislation, soon, but I doubt it will happen. Theyíre sure as hell not going to vote for their own term limits!




That is why it has to be done with a Convention of States. The reason it seems such a hard task to get together 3/4 of the states for an Article V convention is because all the damn state people are career politicians too and most probably entertain a federal political spot.
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Yes. Article 5 this leviathan before it eats all of US whole.
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Old 02-09-2018, 20:56   #218
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Concise, factual, a 2 minute warning - Stand Up - in my mind.

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The country is terrified about having a rational and logical discussion about almost every great issue of our times: unsustainable national debts and deficits, the new nexus between leftwing plutocracy and populism, the viability of Social Security and Medicare, deteriorating race relations, the Soviet-style American campus, global warming, and the deterioration of medical care. Instead, to preclude honest talk, we offer perfunctory charges of sexism and racism, and seek cover in “fairness” and “equality.”
The redistributionist, equality-of-result state — fueled by a national progressive ideology — is the new deity that determines what is free expression. Blasphemy is now defined as daring to use logic and evidence to expose the state’s failed, deductive tenets.
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I am reminded of The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged. Our society is deteriorating and our elected officials (the vast majority) are participating in the degradation of our country. I'm not sure how we can climb back up from the abyss we have fallen into.
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Finest Kind, Penn! Poignant, well argued, and precisely on point IMHO.

And, sfshooter, you are correct in your analogy, but don't despair.

Hold Fast, the leftist agenda is coming unraveled. One thing is for certain, us "Deplorables" can sense the Truth, we readily recognize BS and we don't back down so easily.

It's a culture war that will be a long haul and it will get ugly from time-to-time. Take heart in that DJT is Galt-like, so in the end we will prevail!

I've said it before, I think this forum is Galt's Gulch so keep the Faith!
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Finest Kind, Penn! Poignant, well argued, and precisely on point IMHO.

And, sfshooter, you are correct in your analogy, but don't despair.

Hold Fast, the leftist agenda is coming unraveled. One thing is for certain, us "Deplorables" can sense the Truth, we readily recognize BS and we don't back down so easily.

It's a culture war that will be a long haul and it will get ugly from time-to-time. Take heart in that DJT is Galt-like, so in the end we will prevail!

I've said it before, I think this forum is Galt's Gulch so keep the Faith!
Well, TJ, I do get disgusted at times but I have never truly lost the faith in this country. I know we will prevail or I will go down fighting to ensure we do. The true patriots in this country really don't have a voice that can drown out the Pravda networks. Not to say there is no voice, just that the unaware of our society never hear them.
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Well, TJ, I do get disgusted at times but I have never truly lost the faith in this country. I know we will prevail or I will go down fighting to ensure we do. The true patriots in this country really don't have a voice that can drown out the Pravda networks. Not to say there is no voice, just that the unaware of our society never hear them.
They don’t need to be drown out. They are failing with their message. People are running to the internet in droves. As seen in viewership and the fact NYT is stating print will be dead in 10 yrs. they killed it with partisan reporting.

Once on the internet, you are presented with Ben Shapiro, Mark Dice, Steven Crowder, et.al. Once they start hearing REAL conservatism and not the RINO party line on Fox or the American Pravda propaganda on the other stations, they are in for an awakening.

The sleepers are awakening (woking, for the millennials on here).

I find it funny that the libs think THEY are the Resistance. It’s all part of the communist playbook. They are always the down trodden, they are always for the struggle. But, THEY are the government right now, they are the deep state, they have the president against the ropes. They are NOT the resistance! They are the disease, they are big gubmint. Government has always been the problem and the founding fathers knew this. They tried to explain it but we were to stupid to listen.

“A Republic, if you can keep it!”

ETA: They have NO IDEA what a/the resistance really is/means. The Masters of Chaos that roam these boards would have a field day.
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Insightful, I'm seeing the same...it's hard to keep believing that same old propaganda when it goes nowhere productive.

I continue to marvel at our Founding Fathers and the results of their work.

You said it and it does take work it's not ever a given...

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Nope, and I hope they think so! He has them chasing the next shiny object at his will. DJT is a master of misdirection and they fall for it every time.

Meanwhile he is moving his agenda forward step by step. His tactics have put them in the "no message" position. The real truth is emerging and that coupled with his successes (tax reform, immigration reform, infrastructure rebuilding, not to mention the foreign policy successes, balancing trade, and repatriation of $Trilions) will redefine the political landscape forever.

Look for the real draining of the swamp to begin in 2019. Then they will wake up to the reality that is upon them , but it will be too late. JMHO
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