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Old 01-17-2020, 13:53   #76
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The orthodox democrat party has been taken over by the radical progressive left. They do NOT support the U S Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the elected POTUS. They have a vision for the USA that follows the doctrine of Karl Marx
Timely. Following is a screen-shot from a social media site that calls attention to other stuff that Northam's goons are doing with their left hand while everyone is focused on the 2A fight in their right hand. Note that a couple of them effectively nullify the electoral college at the national level, while in contrast trying to insure that a handful of NoVA counties will elect the governor in perpetuity.

Bloomberg expects to get his money's worth.
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Old 01-17-2020, 14:09   #77
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wow - doubles the governors term

Politics in VA must be pretty profitable
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Old 01-17-2020, 17:45   #78
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Va is the test tube along with cali. California passed collective voting. Where one can collect signatures of registered voters and process their vote. Removing the stress of turning out the/to vote ordeal. The one person/one vote rule is dead.

Yes, gun control is a distraction from the full court press of suppression the opposition.

Also, would you be kind enough to forward the website address you pull the list of bills from.

Pulled from the https://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/leg...yp=bil&val=sj6

SJ 29 Constitutional amendment (first resolution); election of the Governor, Lieutenant Governor.
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Constitutional amendment (first resolution); election of the Governor, Lieutenant Governor, and Attorney General. Changes the method of election for the Governor, and by reference, the Lieutenant Governor and Attorney General. The candidate receiving the highest number of votes in a majority of each of the congressional districts shall be declared elected. Under current law, the person receiving the highest number of votes statewide is declared elected. Ties in the number of votes in a given congressional district or in the number of congressional districts won are determined by a majority vote

SJ 6 Constitutional amendment; Governor's term of office (first reference).
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Constitutional amendment (first resolution); Governor's term of office. Permits a Governor elected in 2025 and thereafter to succeed himself in office. The amendment allows two four-year terms (either in succession or not in succession) but prohibits election to a third term. Service for more than two years of a partial term counts as service for one term.

SJ 29 Constitutional amendment (first resolution); election of the Governor, Lieutenant Governor.
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Constitutional amendment (first resolution); election of the Governor, Lieutenant Governor, and Attorney General. Changes the method of election for the Governor, and by reference, the Lieutenant Governor and Attorney General. The candidate receiving the highest number of votes in a majority of each of the congressional districts shall be declared elected. Under current law, the peron receiving the highest number of votes statewide is declared elected. Ties in the number of votes in a given congressional district or in the number of congressional districts won are determined by a majority vote of the General Assembly.


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Old 01-17-2020, 18:57   #79
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I found this of interest in regards to Virginia and how it was flipped...Pennsylvania and who knows where else.

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When they are appointed as “special master” by Federal Courts to re-draw the electoral map of a state on the other side of the country from where they work, it is hard not to raise an eyebrow.
https://identitydixie.com/2019/11/06...crat-majority/

https://www.richmond.com/news/local/...cf8815156.html

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers....act_id=3248713


AND in other news Gun Control groups called off their 'Annual Rally' on Capital Square aka 'MLK Day Event' due to threats.....so Lobby Day was scheduled to be on MLK Day as well and on Capital Square.

https://www.virginiamercury.com/blog...-for-violence/

Interesting planning...VCDL planned their event on the same day and place as the Anti-Gun Orgs ...sounds like a cluster f*** in the making.
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Also, would you be kind enough to forward the website address you pull the list of bills from.
Full disclosure, I didn't pull the list. That was extracted from a social media post that was put up on Gab.

However, the site you referenced should have them, as I found the reference for SB399 there as well, as submitted here. (This is the one I call "Y'all Can Kiss Your Constitooshun and Notions of the Electoral College Goodbye" bill.)

As to the rest of your post, your observations about the full-spectrum end-game are in the 'X' ring.
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While they want to do away with the National EC (won't happen, unconstitutional), SJ29 seems to create a State Electoral College (an idea which might be a threat to California in the future).

First order of business when we get the full Congress back is to repeal the 17th Amendment and give the Senators back to the intended State Legislatures.
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Old 01-18-2020, 07:45   #82
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AND in other news Gun Control groups called off their 'Annual Rally' on Capital Square aka 'MLK Day Event' due to threats.....so Lobby Day was scheduled to be on MLK Day as well and on Capital Square.

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They found an effective way to silence the right. Just keep sending bogus threats, and shouting down. Making laws and declaring states of emergency. Funnel protesters into a caged lot and forbid them their rights of self protection. The right gets tired and scared and takes their ball and goes home.
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Old 01-18-2020, 09:12   #83
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First order of business when we get the full Congress back is to repeal the 17th Amendment and give the Senators back to the intended State Legislatures.
What is your reasoning for giving back to state legislatures the right to choose their senators, rather than the voting public?

Also, it a good idea to cancel the 2A rally on the 20th. Envision the chaos and PR opportunity to hammer away at 2A supporters, who may be forced to defend themselves from the violent opposition, they would surly be confronted with at the rally.

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Also, it a good idea to cancel the 2A rally on the 20th. Envision the chaos and PR opportunity to hammer away at 2A supporters, who may be forced to defend themselves from the violent opposition, they would surly be confronted with at the rally.
Are you asking if, or stating it should be cancelled? There are 2 sides to that coin, both positions vigorously stated to this point. One side advocates cancelling because the opportunity is ripe for Northam to enable his thugs and most of the media will cooperate because... parasites.

The other side says, "we've held this event annually for many years & have good relations with the SP & Capital police. Quit or else the left will hate us? They already do. Quit because the media are untrustworthy? They already are. Quit because we're abdicating our 1A rights? Uh... no."
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What is your reasoning for giving back to state legislatures the right to choose their senators, rather than the voting public?
That's how the Founders set it up originally because we are a Federation of States, not a Democracy. The House was established to represent the people in small congressional districts and the Senate was established to represent the states themselves. Using Arizona as an example, the state legislature here would never have sent McCain and/or Flake to the Senate as neither represented the state the way the State Legislators wanted. McCain, for instance, was against the border wall and for Obama Care, neither of which the State agreed with. They would have removed him. Likewise Flake. Plus, it's likely that there would not be the life-long Senate seat holders like Byrd, Kennedy, etc.
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They found an effective way to silence the right. Just keep sending bogus threats, and shouting down. Making laws and declaring states of emergency. Funnel protesters into a caged lot and forbid them their rights of self protection. The right gets tired and scared and takes their ball and goes home.
The groups that cancelled were groups like Virginia Center for Public Safety, the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence and the Educational Fund to Stop Gun Violence which are likely left leaning. The VCDL event is still going to take place as planned.

What I find interesting is after Northam declares a state of emergency, the FBI right on queue busts some clods from an out of town group named The Base who were 'allegedly' in the process of attacking the event. At least one of the busts involved an informant who, based on previous busts of this nature, likely enticed the clods with promises of some contraband, or maybe they posted stupid training videos. If post 2007 busts of this nature are a litmus these clods will have an extended stay in jail only to have the charges dropped...

Also of interest is that ANTIFA announced yesterday that their members would be standing side by side in unity with the members of VCDL.

So we now have the VCDL gathering compared to Charlottesville, associated with evil doers from The Base, rubbing elbows with the violent group ANTIFA, protesting gun control on the sacred MLK holiday and the Impeachment trial begins next week.


And it's all by chance...
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And it's all by chance...


Yup...

Thing is, people using that logic to cancel the event or not go, can apply the same logic to any and all future gun shows, Knob Creek, and any other "event" where people with guns decide to meet.

Dangerous!!! State of Emergency!!!! Red Alert!!!!

These are the people that are afraid of their own shadow, and are against everyone else having firearms, but have their own armed private security, who of course, will be exempt from these new "laws".

...and I really don't think ANTIFA is joining anyone, they are just blowing smoke to give them a reason to be there to stir and start shit. Only problem with their logic is... the people they are starting shit with, are armed and normally not the usual people ANTIFA hit with bike locks.
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Dup post....not sure hoe that happened.
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That's how the Founders set it up originally because we are a Federation of States, not a Democracy.
X-ring. This wasn't their top of the list method at first either. It was a MAJOR bone of contention during the ratification discussions as well as the tail end of the convention. The "populous" states had won their representation based on population (House) and the smaller states put their foot down and said "No, unless..." they got some equity in representation in the other side of the legislature, to wit, 2 per state, no matter how big you are and "We the states will decide who that is in our legislature so that we may have some control to recall someone not looking out for our interests." Without that modification it's unlikely the thing would've been ratified when it was.
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From VA State Senator Amanda Chase

Calling it like she sees it.
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