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Old 09-12-2015, 11:34   #1
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German city transformed by refugees

Erfurt is a beautiful old European city. Taught English there for two years about ten years ago. Can't believe
this is happening.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/12/wo...ants.html?_r=0

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Old 09-12-2015, 11:50   #2
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From the article cited in the OP.
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The migrant crisis is not just a humanitarian imperative, it is an opportunity. Germany has among the lowest birthrates in Europe. The population is shrinking and aging, particularly in the former East.

“I just met a refugee family with five children,” Dieter Lauinger, the state minister for migration, said. “Five children. These people could be paying our retirement.” Businesses in the region are looking for 3,000 apprentices. Electricians and builders are in demand. Doctors and teachers, too.
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Old 09-12-2015, 11:59   #3
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From the article cited in the OP.
Yes, and totally changing the culture
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Old 09-12-2015, 13:57   #4
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Greenburg, Kansas had a tornado back in 2007 which put the town back in the 1800's so to speak.......they had a huge surge in birth rates, so much so they had to increase the size of the schools. The number I recall is a 60% increase.

Amazing what happens when the comforts of modern day society are not available.
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Old 09-12-2015, 16:22   #5
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If I recall, this is the method for their "Stealth Jihad". Well, more like an accelerated version. Get in to Europe and every other western country and start pumping kids out with multiple wives to create huge litters, who are then raised in the islamist ways who then grow and repeat the process. And if you start pushing back against them, well then you're just a racist who is soon to be in the minority.
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Old 09-13-2015, 01:40   #6
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If I recall, this is the method for their "Stealth Jihad". Well, more like an accelerated version. Get in to Europe and every other western country and start pumping kids out with multiple wives to create huge litters, who are then raised in the islamist ways who then grow and repeat the process. And if you start pushing back against them, well then you're just a racist who is soon to be in the minority.
The only thing I would ad is:

Doing it in poverty by draining the progressive western states of every welfare/support dollar possible while creating non permissive ghettos as platforms to build their base of ethnic-socio-political influence and control.

I think of it like the Irish and Italian organised crime networks of the last century before those greater ethnic networks migrated out of the ghettos, then working class neighbourhoods, then middle class suburbs....except for it being a far greater political/socio-religious doctrinal threat.

Not that there's the money for it(nor should it be spent on it), but if they all achieved the American Dream(or local version of it) I think the risk would be reduced(possibly quite dramatically).

But that's a pipe dream, and I reckon the bad guys will be working hard to build walls, moats, and defensible non permissive ghettos to operate with complete freedom of manoeuvre from host nation security forces.

Look at the North African ghettos of suburban Paris for examples or Sweden's severely misguided immigrant ghettos.
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Old 09-13-2015, 09:17   #7
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The final invasion of Europe has begun in earnest. Notice that the middle eastern countries will not even take the "refugees".

I'd visit now, before shria law takes over and bans travel....
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Old 09-13-2015, 10:29   #8
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Then half of the Europeans would try to flee to the States
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Then half of the Europeans would try to flee to the States
We're already here, been here what, 300+ years?
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Old 09-13-2015, 10:46   #10
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True.
I hope you left some room for the rest if us.

(I was wondering if I should write this in pink, but then decided I am dead serious. If Sharia comes here, I am coming to the States...)
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Old 09-13-2015, 11:11   #11
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The final invasion of Europe has begun in earnest. Notice that the middle eastern countries will not even take the "refugees".
Some, maybe, but...

"Saudi Arabia said it has taken in about 2.5 million Syrians on religious and humanitarian grounds in the years since the country's conflict began and has offered residency to hundreds of thousands, as it sought to rebut suggestions that oil-rich Gulf states should do more to address the plight of refugees fleeing civil war."

http://www.voanews.com/content/saudi...y/2961168.html

I saw a news program last night which interviewed Syrian refugees in camps in Lebanon. One family had been there for 2 years now. The father stated that they thought the Syrian crisis would clear up in 4 or 5 months and they could all return home. Now he said it was hopeless and the family was seeking to emigrate to Europe to take his children out of there.

A migration crisis and a complicated mess it is.

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Old 09-13-2015, 17:15   #12
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Germany restricting border taffic with Austria

Germany introduced border controls on Sunday, and dramatically halted all their train traffic with Austria, after the country's regions said they could no longer cope with the overwhelming number of refugees entering the country.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...gency-measures

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Old 09-13-2015, 17:51   #13
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Well Germany has pulled their heads out of the sand. They just started border checkpoints because they can not support the influx of refugees.

http://news.yahoo.com/passports-plea...223132653.html
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Some, maybe, but...

"Saudi Arabia said it has taken in about 2.5 million Syrians on religious and humanitarian grounds in the years since the country's conflict began and has offered residency to hundreds of thousands, as it sought to rebut suggestions that oil-rich Gulf states should do more to address the plight of refugees fleeing civil war."

http://www.voanews.com/content/saudi...y/2961168.html

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That's what the "saudis" said. I'm guessing you've never worked with them before?

And who's "confirming" this statement? (The same folks that think allowing Iran to conduct it's own nuclear weapons inspections.......)

"Neville Chamberlain-obama was the British prime minister as England entered World War II. He is known for his policy of "appeasement" toward Adolf Hitler's Nazi Germany."
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Old 09-14-2015, 09:24   #15
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The Saudis are giving work permit visas to Syrians. Not quite the same as the refugees but I'm ok with that. The European countries should consider it. "While you are here, what kind of skills do you have? We can use garbage men and street sweepers as well medical workers if you are skilled."
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