01-22-2004, 19:40
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SF Physical
SPECIAL FORCES PHYSICAL EXAM CHECKLIST
LNAME_______________ L4 SSN____________ CLASS/YG_______ STN_____
BLOCK# DD FORM 2808 PAGES 1-3 REPORT OF MEDICAL EXAMINATION
1-15b ______________ Personal / General Information
15c ______________ PURPOSE OF EXAM ( SF/ SFAS/ SFQC)
16 ______________ NAME OF EXAM LOCATION CLINIC ETC
17-44 ______________ CLINICAL EVALUATION (Any Abnormalities must be explained)
43 ______________ DENTAL (Must Be Acceptable, Class 1 or 2)
45 ______________ URINALYSIS (MUST BE < THAN 2.00 SPECIFY GRAVITY)
45a ______________ ALBUMIN (negative or trace only)
45b ______________ SUGAR (NEGATIVE ONLY)
48 ______________ BLOOD TYPE
49 ______________ HIV (NEGATIVE)
52 ______________ OTHER (SICKLE, RPR, EKG, CHEST X-RAY)
53-55 _____________ HEIGHT/ WEIGHT (If over max weight include tape test)
57 ______________ PULSE (not over 100) 58a-c ______________ BLOOD PRESSURE (MAX’s 140/90 MIN’s 90/60) If High or low need 5dy BP Check
59 ______________VIVID RED/GREEN PASS (Required if fails normal color test in item# 66)
61 ______________ FAR VISION (Must Correct to 20/20 in both eyes)
62 ______________ REFRACTION (Required if uncorrected vision is not 20/20; +or-8 diopters max)
63 ______________ NEAR VISION (Must correct to 20/20 in both eyes)
66 ______________ COLOR VISION (If fails color vision test must be able to pass Vivid Red/Green test)
71a ______________ HEARING(500-2000 Average less than 30db, 3000-45db 4000-55db)
72b ______________ VALSALVA (should be SAT OR +)
73 ______________ NOTES ( Should include here or somewhere on physical – No Fear Statement, Digital Rectal exam or Hemmocult/occult Blood, Chest Xray, EKG)
74a ______________ QUALIFIED/NOT QUALIFIED(MUST STATE SF / SFAS TRAINING)
75b ______________ PHYSICAL PROFILE AND CATEGORY (MIN 111121)
81-84a/b ______________ DOCTOR (MD) & DENTIST (DC or DDS) / Name/Signature
BLOCK DD FORM 2807 1-3 REPORT OF MEDICAL HISTORY
1-9 ______________ EXAMINEE INFORMATION
10-28 ______________ EMAMINEE HISTORY
29 ______________ALL YES ANSWERS MUST BE FULLY EXPLAINED BY EXAMINEE
30 _______________All YES ANSWERS MUST BE EXPLAINED BY PA OR DR
30b ______________ DOCTOR/PA SIGNATURE AND DATE
All Lab results should be annotated on DD 2808 – Retain copy of lab printout in Residual file but do not scan in with physical
Chest X-ray – Should be annotated on DD 2808 as Normal - Retain copy of lab printout in Residual file but do not scan in with physical
EKG/ECG – Should be annotated on DD 2808 as Normal- Retain copy of lab printout in Residual file but do not scan in with physical
Physical QC’d BY: __________________________________________________ _______
Name of Recruiter/Station Cmdr
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02-03-2004, 14:23
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JAWBREAKER
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Re: SF Physical
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Originally posted by The Reaper
SPECIAL FORCES PHYSICAL EXAM CHECKLIST
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43 ______________ DENTAL (Must Be Acceptable, Class 1 or 2)
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I haven't seen this explained before in the past threads here or elsewhere. Recruits need to understand that their oral health is examined and evaluated. Here is a brief explanation of the US Army Dental classifications system. Remember that you have to be a class 1 or 2 per Reaper's information. You don't make the decision on the likelyhood for future emergencies. The Dentist will make that judgement call based on his/her experiences. Don't take any chances.
The Department of Defense Dental Classification Guideline and AR 40-35 outline the following dental fitness classifications:
Class 1-
1. Soldiers who require no dental treatment
2. Soldier has had a complete dental exam within the past year
Class 2 -
1. Soldiers whose existing dental condition is unlikely to result in a dental emergency within 12 months
2. Soldier requires some type of dental care or re-check
Examples:
A few Simple fillings
Routine Dental cleaning
Simple wisdom tooth extraction
Class 3-
1. Soldiers who require dental treatment to correct a dental condition that is likely to cause a dental emergency within 12 months.
2. Soldier requires dental care as soon as possible
3. A dental emergency is likely to occur if the condition is not corrected
Examples:
Badly decayed teeth
Severe gum disease
Root canal needed
Painful or diseased wisdom tooth
Soldier is not deployable/acceptable
Class 4-
1. Soldiers who require a dental examination or panographic radiograph (X-ray).
2. Disease status is unknown
Soldier is not deployable/acceptable
*** Remember - The health of your entire mouth, not just your teeth. The mouth includes the teeth and the gums (gingiva), ligaments, muscles and jaw bones. It also includes the tongue, the lining of the mouth and throat, salivary glands and lymph nodes.
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05-03-2011, 15:27
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Hadn't found this anywhere else here, and this seemed like the most appropriate thread...
I thought it might be useful to know that you may NOT attend SFAS with braces on your teeth  . Verified this with more than one SF recruiter to be sure - the last one read through the reg while I was on the phone. None had ever been asked this question before.
Even though I am considered Class 2, I still can't go until they're off. At least I get another 12-18 months under ruck before I throw my hat into the ring.
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06-27-2011, 03:17
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73 ______________ NOTES ( Should include here or somewhere on physical – No Fear Statement...
Nobody at the hospital apparently knows about a No Fear Statement. What can I tell the doc?
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06-27-2011, 03:38
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Quote:
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73 ______________ NOTES ( Should include here or somewhere on physical – No Fear Statement...
Nobody at the hospital apparently knows about a No Fear Statement. What can I tell the doc?
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It should state:
"I have no fear of darkness or confined spaces."
PA
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Ain't no one getting out of this world alive. All you can do is try to have some choice in the way you go. Prepare yourself (and your affairs), and when your number is up, die on your feet fighting rather than on your knees. And make the SOBs pay dearly."
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06-28-2011, 09:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eagle5US
It should state:
"I have no fear of darkness or confined spaces."
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Oh, the guys that tried to lie about that one...... it was almost funny, sad, scary, dangerous but funny.....
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06-28-2011, 09:25
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Oddly, they find it strange that there is a true necessity for this statement during their training
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"I have hung out in dangerous places a lot over the years, from combat zones to biker bars, and it is the weak, the unaware, or those looking for it, that usually find trouble.
Ain't no one getting out of this world alive. All you can do is try to have some choice in the way you go. Prepare yourself (and your affairs), and when your number is up, die on your feet fighting rather than on your knees. And make the SOBs pay dearly."
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06-28-2011, 12:06
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Originally Posted by x SF med
Oh, the guys that tried to lie about that one...... it was almost funny, sad, scary, dangerous but funny.....
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The Irish SOF have a do or die test on the selection for that.. Don't do it, RTU.
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07-25-2011, 13:30
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07-25-2011, 13:40
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This is more of a question of what's the right thing to do. Not being a dentist, and not being able to examine your chompers, I wouldn't be able to determine the extent of the damage to see if you would be a class 2 or class 3.
People do join the military all the time with what we call EPTS (existed prior to service) conditions and expect Uncle Sam to spend thousands of dollars to "fix it" for them.
It will eventually become an issue, even if it isn't right now, and will require repair. I would disclose it when you get to the dental exam and let them determine the best COA. It will probably be a non issue and if they determine you to be a class 3 they will fix your teeth at MEPS or during your initial processing as it is something that can be accomplished relatively quickly (as opposed to folks with multiple rotting teeth and or moderate to severe gum disease).
If they see you as a class 2, they may wait until you have at minimum completed basic training before fixing your teeth.
Good luck-
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Primum non Nocere
"I have hung out in dangerous places a lot over the years, from combat zones to biker bars, and it is the weak, the unaware, or those looking for it, that usually find trouble.
Ain't no one getting out of this world alive. All you can do is try to have some choice in the way you go. Prepare yourself (and your affairs), and when your number is up, die on your feet fighting rather than on your knees. And make the SOBs pay dearly."
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07-25-2011, 14:11
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Quote:
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Oh, the guys that tried to lie about that one...... it was almost funny, sad, scary, dangerous but funny.....
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I've got claustrophobia, myself. I don't recommend SF for others with that particular problem...
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07-26-2011, 07:26
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I've got claustrophobia, myself. I don't recommend SF for others with that particular problem...
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I've never had an issue with the dark, confined places...but there's been more than one dive in pitch black (can't see your hand in front of your mask) conditions that I've had to remind myself to trust my training and the training of my teammates.
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07-26-2011, 07:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eagle5US
This is more of a question of what's the right thing to do. Not being a dentist, and not being able to examine your chompers, I wouldn't be able to determine the extent of the damage to see if you would be a class 2 or class 3.
People do join the military all the time with what we call EPTS (existed prior to service) conditions and expect Uncle Sam to spend thousands of dollars to "fix it" for them.
It will eventually become an issue, even if it isn't right now, and will require repair. I would disclose it when you get to the dental exam and let them determine the best COA. It will probably be a non issue and if they determine you to be a class 3 they will fix your teeth at MEPS or during your initial processing as it is something that can be accomplished relatively quickly (as opposed to folks with multiple rotting teeth and or moderate to severe gum disease).
If they see you as a class 2, they may wait until you have at minimum completed basic training before fixing your teeth.
Good luck-
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Allow me to weigh in on this one. As a SF Recruiter I have seen far too many NPS show up thinking MEPS will fix the issue. Rarely does that happen. The MEPS Dr will stop your processing and send you home with a ship date some time in the future after your corrective procedure. If you get the teeth fixed prior to your trip back to MEPS you will need to provide your Recruiter with all of the documents and have a MED Read completed. The MEPS Doc will review it, determine if you are good to go or not with the procedure, then allow you to return to MEPS and ship. MEPS is not a medical facility and I have never known them to be helpful in fixing anything for a new enlistee. Get it fixed. And keep your Recruiter informed of whats happening with you. It makes life much easier.
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07-26-2011, 07:53
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07-26-2011, 08:34
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1SG Ed-
He'll need to see the dentist regarding this. The Physician won't have any input.
Thanks for your expertise.
Eagle
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"I have hung out in dangerous places a lot over the years, from combat zones to biker bars, and it is the weak, the unaware, or those looking for it, that usually find trouble.
Ain't no one getting out of this world alive. All you can do is try to have some choice in the way you go. Prepare yourself (and your affairs), and when your number is up, die on your feet fighting rather than on your knees. And make the SOBs pay dearly."
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