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Old 10-01-2020, 23:13   #1
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Trump tested positive

Wonder if he will wear a mask now
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Old 10-02-2020, 05:33   #2
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Well I guess that’s one way for bidet to get out of the debate....wonder if everyone at the debate will be quarantined for the next 2 weeks?
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Old 10-02-2020, 05:39   #3
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I wonder if he announced POS to pre-emptively scare the shitt out of Joe?

Rumer has been going around about Joe going POS, then withdrawing from the race to allow smoke-pole Harris the oppertunity
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Old 10-02-2020, 06:25   #5
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Well, to about 1/2 of America, they will consider this a death sentence and be surprised when the two of them live.
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Old 10-02-2020, 06:52   #6
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So, if the best defenses in the world are/have been used and I really mean that - the best case scenario. No one gets close to POTUS without being tested. The president has said he and others wear a mask indoors or when needed. Otherwise he maintains the mandated “social distancing” directed by the CDC.

If all this is believed to be true...then apparently that doesn’t work.

Did POTUS get it from Hicks?
Did POTUS get it from Melania?
Did POTUS get it from a third unknown person and give it instead of receive it from either of those two?

If an old, supposedly over weight, supposedly unhealthy, male, goes through the next few weeks with minimal to no effects then Hydroxychloroquine may actually be more prophylactic then than CDC guidelines.

Regardless, I wish him, Melania, and Miss Hicks a symptomless and speedy recovery.

Let’s hope V-POTUS remains negative through the election. And if he does become our president he needs to appoint his Vice President and swear that person in long before Nancy Pulomy ever gets close to taking over.
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Old 10-02-2020, 10:19   #7
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Wonder if he will wear a mask now
My understanding is that mask will not prevent the virus from entering.

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We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal. In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic.
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It is also clear that masks serve symbolic roles. Masks are not only tools, they are also talismans that may help increase health care workers’ perceived sense of safety, well-being, and trust in their hospitals.
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What is clear, however, is that universal masking alone is not a panacea. A mask will not protect providers caring for a patient with active Covid-19 if it’s not accompanied by meticulous hand hygiene, eye protection, gloves, and a gown. A mask alone will not prevent health care workers with early Covid-19 from contaminating their hands and spreading the virus to patients and colleagues. Focusing on universal masking alone may, paradoxically, lead to more transmission of Covid-19 if it diverts attention from implementing more fundamental infection-control measures.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.105...6372?query=TOC
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Old 10-02-2020, 12:36   #8
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Contracting CoVid-19 !

Probably the recirculated air in AIR FORCE 1 is the source of the virus spreading to the people who were on the plane. This should be an interesting contact tracing study for the source. The virus must have a living host to reproduce and how long is the virus able to spread in cabin air of the plane?
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Old 10-02-2020, 13:06   #9
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Considering all the "public" time 45 has, it's a wonder he didn't die the 1st week..

They are now saying they are both asymptomatic.

The AF#! air handlers bring up a quandary.

Why are there only 8 deaths in the US military?

Given the fact that the military eats in Mess Halls, Travels in bulk transport, sleeps in bunkhouses (nowadays many 4 per room?, and community outhouses) and still less than a dozen deaths.

Based on the CDC death rate for 20-50 YO's of 00.3%, given 1.500,000 service members, the death toll should be around 4500, not EIGHT(8)

Is the rest of the World is doing it wrong?
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Old 10-02-2020, 13:19   #10
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Considering all the "public" time 45 has, it's a wonder he didn't die the 1st week..

They are now saying they are both asymptomatic.

The AF#! air handlers bring up a quandary.

Why are there only 8 deaths in the US military?

Given the fact that the military eats in Mess Halls, Travels in bulk transport, sleeps in bunkhouses (nowadays many 4 per room?, and community outhouses) and still less than a dozen deaths.

Based on the CDC death rate for 20-50 YO's of 00.3%, given 1.500,000 service members, the death toll should be around 4500, not EIGHT(8)

Is the rest of the World is doing it wrong?
Having been a data analyst on this COVID issue since pretty much the beginning and ingesting as much data as I could until we hit the infodemic phase of this year's entertainment, the short answer is this:

The most likely indicator of mortality is already having a life-threatening disease or otherwise already being unhealthy (obesity, diabetes, autoimmune diseases, etc.)

If you are young and healthy your chance of dying is low. Having access to doctors lowers it further.

For the military this disease is about as threatening as the flu. For the general obese population the issue is not only the comorbidities but the extreme ease with which so many of these people have been vectors to other high-risk populations.
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So, if the best defenses in the world are/have been used and I really mean that - the best case scenario. No one gets close to POTUS without being tested. The president has said he and others wear a mask indoors or when needed. Otherwise he maintains the mandated “social distancing” directed by the CDC.

If all this is believed to be true...then apparently that doesn’t work.
Well, it's not true. Plenty of photos and videos of him maskless, and more importantly to the health of the leader of the free world, people going maskless around him.

But who said masks guarantee you won't get or spread COVID? No one. They are said to reduce the spread, not totally eliminate it.

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If an old, supposedly over weight, supposedly unhealthy, male, goes through the next few weeks with minimal to no effects then Hydroxychloroquine may actually be more prophylactic then than CDC guidelines.
1. He's obviously overweight. There's no supposedly about it.

2. Since he was airlifted to Walter Reed, I'm going to say he's not gotten through it with minimal to no effects (yeah, the standard of care for POTUS should mean he gets hospitalized sooner than you and me would, but it's not a good sign.)

3. COVID 19 isn't a death sentence, even for 74 year old overweight males.

4. He's a sample of one. If he makes it through, which the odds are overwhelmingly in his favor, it should prove nothing to anyone with a bit of common sense and a middle school understanding of statistics and probability.

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Old 10-03-2020, 11:29   #12
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Based on the CDC death rate for 20-50 YO's of 00.3%, given 1.500,000 service members, the death toll should be around 4500, not EIGHT(8)
Your figures presume every single service member has contracted COVID 19, which they haven't.

Your figures also presume that service members have the same comorbidities that the rest of the population has. They don't. Not a lot of asthmatic, obese diabetics with high blood pressure and other underlying diseases in the military. There are in the U.S. general population.
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Having been a data analyst on this COVID issue since pretty much the beginning and ingesting as much data as I could until we hit the infodemic phase of this year's entertainment, the short answer is this:

The most likely indicator of mortality is already having a life-threatening disease or otherwise already being unhealthy (obesity, diabetes, autoimmune diseases, etc.)

If you are young and healthy your chance of dying is low. Having access to doctors lowers it further.

For the military this disease is about as threatening as the flu. For the general obese population the issue is not only the comorbidities but the extreme ease with which so many of these people have been vectors to other high-risk populations.
Thank you for this. We have been puzzled at the low mortality and diminishing cases with the host nation. Extremely low rate of obesity and young population have been the most likely explanation
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CoVID19: Spread:

Does the recirculating air in the Air Force 1 cabin have hepa filters that would remove virus particles ? Anyone know ?
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Does the recirculating air in the Air Force 1 cabin have hepa filters that would remove virus particles ? Anyone know ?
That’s what the experts in aviation say. All commercial aircraft are to be recirculating HEPA filtered air above certain altitudes (I think it depends on aircraft type) and then fresh air below that on accent/decent.

The air that comes out the overhead vents should be really clean air. Once it’s in the cabin it’s sucked back through floor vents and recycled adding fresh air as it can. It all come through the engines and what’s not recycled goes out waste gates in the fuselage. (But that doesn’t mean it’s not a Petri dish germ tube!)

The only thing I’ve heard not classified about AF1 is that they have biological (NBC) filtration but that information is very old and probably not reliable.
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