Old 09-15-2020, 10:28   #1
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1LT NTR / Need Advice

I am a 1LT, National Guard, 20th GRP candidate. Recently I received an NTR at SFAS. (2nd attempt)

First attempt, I went in Oct, passed gate week no problem, but was dropped for psych. 2014 I got a DUI (before military / commissioning). This is the part on the psych where you note any past criminal experiences. I also did not think I needed a waiver.

Second attempt: BLUF: Failed to meet 12mile ruck time. I decided to go during the Aug class, and I totally should have listened to my SFRE cadre that heat can really effect you during this class. I never felt so sluggish / total disconnect with my body and simply could not get myself to shuffle or move at a moving speed.

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Moving forward: The NG Liaison informed me that individuals have dropped their commission and went back as enlisted (E-5) for another shot. Has anyone on this forum dropped their commission and went in as E-5?

The NG Liaison mentioned that if I were to come back as an E-5, I should definitely bring a waiver to have the psych portion cleaned up. However what worries me, even if I brought a waiver, there is a possibility you could still be dropped...

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Additional thoughts: I whole hardheartedly want to be part of GRP, and if it takes to drop my commission to go back, I want this to happen. I just want to hear some view points from members on this forum. Another note, I do have a full time job out of the National Guard.

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Old 09-15-2020, 10:39   #2
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I am a 1LT, National Guard, 20th GRP candidate. Recently I received an NTR at SFAS. (2nd attempt)

First attempt, I went in Oct, passed gate week no problem, but was dropped for psych. 2014 I got a DUI (before military / commissioning). This is the part on the psych where you note any past criminal experiences. I also did not think I needed a waiver.

Second attempt: BLUF: Failed to meet 12mile ruck time. I decided to go during the Aug class, and I totally should have listened to my SFRE cadre that heat can really effect you during this class. I never felt so sluggish / total disconnect with my body and simply could not get myself to shuffle or move at a moving speed.

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Moving forward: The NG Liaison informed me that individuals have dropped their commission and went back as enlisted (E-5) for another shot. Has anyone on this forum dropped their commission and went in as E-5?

The NG Liaison mentioned that if I were to come back as an E-5, I should definitely bring a waiver to have the psych portion cleaned up. However what worries me, even if I brought a waiver, there is a possibility you could still be dropped...

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Additional thoughts: I whole hardheartedly want to be part of GRP, and if it takes to drop my commission to go back, I want this to happen. I just want to hear some view points from members on this forum. Another note, I do have a full time job out of the National Guard.

Thanks
I don't have a lot to add from an advise perspective. But, realize that giving someone an NTR in SFAS is not done lightly. I was an instructor there for a short stint and I can tell you that they put a lot of thought into whom and why they NTR a candidate, and it is not usually just one thing. For example, during my SFAS class we had a candidate who failed to come in within standard during the last long ruckmarch. But, it was discovered that he was pulling off the march on a broken foot. He got selected. The cadre uses the whole man concept in SFAS. If you were a no-go twice, you might want to consider that this may not be the career choice for you.
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Old 09-15-2020, 11:52   #3
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You have attempted twice. More than many who did not try at all. As noted, this should have struck you that this particular branch of a very large Army is not to be your branch. If you are in some sense asking if a third try as an enlisted member is an option, I will tell you that it is not in your best interest nor the best interest of the Army. Be the best officer you can be within the branch you hold now.
Where can you contribute more to our nation? As an officer, or as an NCO with MAYBE chance of Special Forces, while denying our country a man who sounds like a solid 1LT with prospects of Captain if not much higher. It’s not about you, it’s about the bigger picture.
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