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Old 07-03-2004, 16:04   #1
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Emergency Dental Kit

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What do you think Saca?
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Old 07-03-2004, 18:30   #2
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Let me do some research on what you guys would have available and what it would cost a civy to purchase.

Save your money... I will be back after a little 4th celebratin' tonight...and tomorrow day....and tomorrow night... LOL
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Old 07-13-2004, 12:07   #3
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Tell me how much room you want to dedicate to having a dental kit. In other words, how small a container the kit needs to fit into as well as what type of material the container needs to be made of for you.
  • Metal, plastic, or canvas rollup type case
  • dimensions @ AxBxC inches

You are looking for a "survival" type size emergency kit that would fit in your aid bag and not take up much room, right? This isn't something you want to have access to for anything except emergency patch and go while on the move, right?
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Old 07-13-2004, 13:55   #4
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I'll tell you like I used to tell NATICK

"It needs to be as small and light as possible..."

"Nope, still too big and heavy. Try again."

LOL

Seriously, dental emergencies are low priority to me in today's environment. Something like what's on that link would be good.
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Old 07-13-2004, 14:10   #5
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Working on it...

I may make you up a "care package"...will vacuum seal it and send it to you after I work out what you need. Interested?

IT WILL BE small !!! LOL
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Old 07-13-2004, 14:11   #6
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Originally posted by NousDefionsDoc
I'll tell you like I used to tell NATICK

"It needs to be as small and light as possible..."

"Nope, still too big and heavy. Try again."

And that surpised you? Natick, a laboratory under the command of AMC, which stands for A Million Civilians, dealing with things like the Federal Acquisition Regulations that almost mandate that contracts go to the lowest bidder, has only ever been able to produce the fog of war. Didn't you get that nice warm and fuzzy feeling everytime you looked up at your inflated canopy when you realized that it was made by someone who came in on the low side of the bid and probably had sufficient minorities and disadvantaged workers to meet the federal requirements for the chute.

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Old 07-13-2004, 14:22   #7
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Interested?
Always. LOL
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Old 07-19-2004, 12:17   #8
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How about this:

http://www.dentanurse.com/homeuse.html

[IMG]www.dentanurse.com/tubekit.gif[/IMG]
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Old 07-19-2004, 12:22   #9
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Looks good Swede. Good find.
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Old 07-19-2004, 12:31   #10
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Still working on a small kit. Trying to improvise very small containers of materials without allowing them to dry out yet be easy to dispense prn.
I am putting the temp bond (has two parts) in separate 1.0ml syringes with caps. It can be used for splints, recement crowns, pulp caps,etc.

Working on an easy to dispense IRM container (eugenol ligid and zincOxide powder) for temp fillings.

Everything else is accumulated. Will be putting together a very small reference card (laminated) and then will get back to you. trying to fit everything into a toothbrush container sized setup for you but packing everything I can into that you might need.
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Old 07-27-2004, 19:27   #11
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Contents:
  • 1 syringe each of Temp Bond Base and Catalyst(2+ servings)
  • 1 syringe of Zinc Oxide powder (IRM base) and eugenol liguid (IRM solvent) (2+servings)
  • 1 syringe of astringodent hemostatic agent
  • 4 small bendabrush applicators
  • 1 plastic spatula/mixer
  • 4 coated mixing pad sheets
  • cotton rolls (4)
  • Cotton pellets ( @12)
  • occlusion marking paper (2)
  • wooden interproximal wedges
  • waxed floss @18" (2 strands)
  • double sided mirror (2 mirrors)

If you can do without the cotton rolls, then that will free up space for other things... I still have to get two sealed topical anesthetic (20% benzo on a cotton tip applicator) put in there and find a condenser for placing fillings.

This should allow for twp patients worth of emergency splinting of teeth ( temp bond or IRM ), pulp caps of broken teeth (temp bond or IRM), temp fillings (IRM), exam- foreign body removal, recement loose caps/crowns (IRM or TempBond)severe toothache (eugenol liquid on exposed pulp or benzocaine), etc ....

Anything else you can think of that needs to be in there?
Can't decide between a container as shown ( hard clear plastic with lid or a flatter/vacuum sealed packaqe which would be thinner but wider. Ideas?

Oh yeah, I will be making the instruction sheet soon. It will wrap around the outside of the container - making it look better and also allowing you to use the container as your instruction sheet as you work. I already marked each syringe is with a rubber color coded ring that should make ID'ing what's what easy. ( ie. orange rings indicate Temp bond base and catalyst verses the red ring which indicates the astringodent verses blue ring for IRM).

What do you think? pic showing dimensions(**EDIT to resize)....
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Old 07-27-2004, 19:44   #12
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I assumed that you pulled the magazine out of the pistol so that you did not have a misfire when you used the butt of the weapon as field expedient anesthesia

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Old 07-27-2004, 20:05   #13
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Good mag with rounds in a decent caliber.

How about some floss?

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Old 07-27-2004, 22:47   #14
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Looks like a winner. Good job Saca!

I'm a little confused though, what do I do with the mag of rounds again?
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Old 07-28-2004, 00:22   #15
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Well, see... the dental kit is for repairs after you had the PT bite a bullet because you didn't want to dig in the bag for pain meds for a minor lac...
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