Old 10-14-2013, 17:34   #1
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Body Language

I thought this would be a nice topic.

I remember being on my first ODA I was given a book on body Language. Great things to know.

Watch "History Channel Secrets of body language 720p" on *******

https://www.*******.com/watch?v=dW9z...e_gdata_player

I know there is one given to police officers which if anyone knows or it post.

You also have the courses ran by Reid Institute, like their interview and interrogation training.
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I thought this would be a nice topic.
I remember being on my first ODA I was given a book on body Language. Great things to know.
Watch "History Channel Secrets of body language 720p" on *******
https://www.*******.com/watch?v=dW9z...e_gdata_player
I know there is one given to police officers which if anyone knows or it post.
You also have the courses ran by Reid Institute, like their interview and interrogation training.
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Another great area of study on body language is from the world of poker, and the poker "tells". That's covered in the school of lost wages
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Old 10-28-2013, 13:17   #3
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Interrogator Correspondence Course

I've been told by a QP that the Army's Interrogator Correspondence Course is excellent for reading body language. Half of sales is interrogation.

It could be that the course no longer exists when they revamped everything, or that I am simply not able to locate it on ATRRS or SkillSoft.
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Old 10-29-2013, 19:39   #4
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I've been told by a QP that the Army's Interrogator Correspondence Course is excellent for reading body language. Half of sales is interrogation.

It could be that the course no longer exists when they revamped everything, or that I am simply not able to locate it on ATRRS or SkillSoft.
Nice information. .Naw just the PC training this course was removed from ATTRS and c skill soft.
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Does anyone have any training materials from the course?

The manual is on ebay here.

http://www.amazon.com/U-S-Army-Intel...ogation+manual
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Old 11-05-2013, 11:42   #6
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Additional resources

Another possible resource for someone to look into body language would be any Law Enforcement personnel that you know and have the rapport to talk about the subject with. This may not be the best approach, but it is a starting point.
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I was at a business conference where Susan Constantine gave a presentation on body language. She was brilliant. I see she authored a "Dummy" book that's well-reviewed on Amazon. I haven't seen it but if it's anything like her presentation it'd be a good place to start your studies.

Something she focused on that I hadn't seen before was challenging someone with your own calculated body language to elicit a 'tell' from the 'target'. Pretty interesting.
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I was at a business conference where Susan Constantine gave a presentation on body language. She was brilliant. I see she authored a "Dummy" book that's well-reviewed on Amazon. I haven't seen it but if it's anything like her presentation it'd be a good place to start your studies.

Something she focused on that I hadn't seen before was challenging someone with your own calculated body language to elicit a 'tell' from the 'target'. Pretty interesting.
Susan Constantine has some great topics on nonverbal communication and has videos on ******* also.

Nonverbal Communication:

http://psychology.about.com/od/nonve...erbaltypes.htm

Eye Reading:

http://www.psychologistworld.com/bodylanguage/eyes.php

http://www.2knowmyself.com/how_can_y..._by_their_eyes

I use to have a great Ppt show covering what this article has.

http://www.viewzone.com/liar.html

http://www.blifaloo.com/info/lies_eyes.php
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I was eating with a judge and a prosecutor and they told me that they are trained in body language. It's apparently pretty important in the courtroom with everyone involved.

Another side note is that neither of them would ever allow a member of the Special Forces on a jury again, because they can lie convincingly. Interrogation techniques, understanding tells and being able to repeat the same body language under questioning is something that people would rather others not be able to do.
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People who are trained/experienced in reading body language often have "tells" which reveal the fact that they're trained/experienced.

There are many, but one of the most obvious is "mirroring".
They'll mimic your posture, particularly how open or closed it is (this is often literally mirror image, left vs right).

Such people frequently have a difficult time relaxing and interacting genuinely with new acquaintances.
It's nothing personal, their apprehension is probably rooted in the same reason they acquired the training/experience.

It's possible to put them at ease.

After some interaction, demonstrate some "submissive" body language and wait for them to demonstrate something which indicates feelings of superiority.
Another alternative is to ask them to talk about something in which they have expertise.

Then they'll relax and the interaction will be more genuine.
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Neuro-linguistic programming (NLP)

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People who are trained/experienced in reading body language often have "tells" which reveal the fact that they're trained/experienced.

There are many, but one of the most obvious is "mirroring".
They'll mimic your posture, particularly how open or closed it is (this is often literally mirror image, left vs right).

Such people frequently have a difficult time relaxing and interacting genuinely with new acquaintances.
It's nothing personal, their apprehension is probably rooted in the same reason they acquired the training/experience.

It's possible to put them at ease.

After some interaction, demonstrate some "submissive" body language and wait for them to demonstrate something which indicates feelings of superiority.
Another alternative is to ask them to talk about something in which they have expertise.

Then they'll relax and the interaction will be more genuine.
Some of what your saying GratefulCitizen is what some would call Neuro-Linguistic Programming, which is something else to think about as far as body language.

Google Neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) and you will see it is an approach to communication, personal development, and psychotherapy created by Richard Bandler and John Grinder in the 1970s. Both believed there is a connection between the neurological processes ("neuro"), language both spoken and non-spoken ("linguistic") and behavioral patterns learned through experience ("programming"). This is what a lot of social engineering people use within their methodology for "working" people, groups, and organizations. There general two types Social engineering. One is in political & social science engineering, influencing society on a large scale as in the Arab Spring up rises, insurgencies movements, and political campaigning. There is also social engineering for information security, for obtaining confidential information or obtaining access and placement by manipulating and/or deceiving people for industrial espionage and/or hackers. As with both sects of social engineering, you look at influence including establishing rapport, gleaning information about a problem mental state and desired goals, using specific tools and techniques to make interventions, elicitation, and integrating proposed changes into the person, people, groups, and organizations trying to obtain whatever from them.

Some sites:

http://www.nlpu.com/NewDesign/NLPU_WhatIsNLP.html

http://www.*******.com/watch?v=BYU7dkG6DtA

http://www.social-engineer.org/newsl...rVol02Is10.htm

Look up Neuro-Linguistic Programming for dummies PDF
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Some of what your saying GratefulCitizen is what some would call Neuro-Linguistic Programming, which is something else to think about as far as body language.

Google Neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) and you will see it is an approach to communication, personal development, and psychotherapy created by Richard Bandler and John Grinder in the 1970s. Both believed there is a connection between the neurological processes ("neuro"), language both spoken and non-spoken ("linguistic") and behavioral patterns learned through experience ("programming"). This is what a lot of social engineering people use within their methodology for "working" people, groups, and organizations. There general two types Social engineering. One is in political & social science engineering, influencing society on a large scale as in the Arab Spring up rises, insurgencies movements, and political campaigning. There is also social engineering for information security, for obtaining confidential information or obtaining access and placement by manipulating and/or deceiving people for industrial espionage and/or hackers. As with both sects of social engineering, you look at influence including establishing rapport, gleaning information about a problem mental state and desired goals, using specific tools and techniques to make interventions, elicitation, and integrating proposed changes into the person, people, groups, and organizations trying to obtain whatever from them.

Some sites:

http://www.nlpu.com/NewDesign/NLPU_WhatIsNLP.html

http://www.*******.com/watch?v=BYU7dkG6DtA

http://www.social-engineer.org/newsl...rVol02Is10.htm

Look up Neuro-Linguistic Programming for dummies PDF
Spent many of my younger years working as a bellman and as a bouncer.
Had to assess people quickly and act quickly.

Emphasis on "act" not "react".
Teaching the new guys how to assess was easy, teaching them to act rather than react was a bit more difficult.
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"Eye reading," this typically is what most think of along with the the different links I posted.

Does it change for different handed people?

What about cultures?
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Eye Fun

Always fun to play the mirror game. It gets freaky when it seams you are in a house of mirrors.
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I don't believe it changes with different hand dominances. I'm a lefty and I have had eye reading used on me. Should be universal.
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