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Old 11-15-2009, 21:24   #16
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This could also be achieved with better utilization of the "other" 2 Groups in the Regiment....
I am not sufficiently familiar with the regs regarding mobilization frequency and duration and current theater apportionment of NG SF to respond to that.

We have a NG SOTF with us on all of the rotations I have seen this far.

The 4th battalions are still needed.

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Old 11-16-2009, 07:10   #17
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Yeah, but it would do my heart good to see the 8th Group return!
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Old 11-16-2009, 07:15   #18
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A few more 0-5 command slots vice just adding more 0-4 slots?

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Be fair, Richard. This also means more CSM/00Z slots (vice 18Z SGMs).
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Old 11-16-2009, 07:18   #19
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Be fair, Richard. This also means more CSM/00Z slots (vice 18Z SGMs).
That, too.

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There are a few rumors out there that the real reason for these fourth battalions was that was an easier sell than a "Special Troops Battalion," which was the actual goal. It doesn't sound overly plausible to me but then I haven't heard anyone yet explain how we are going to fully man these new battalions and keep them manned.

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Old 11-17-2009, 21:04   #21
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There are a few rumors out there that the real reason for these fourth battalions was that was an easier sell than a "Special Troops Battalion," which was the actual goal. It doesn't sound overly plausible to me but then I haven't heard anyone yet explain how we are going to fully man these new battalions and keep them manned.

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Old 11-17-2009, 21:21   #22
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There are a few rumors out there that the real reason for these fourth battalions was that was an easier sell than a "Special Troops Battalion," which was the actual goal. It doesn't sound overly plausible to me but then I haven't heard anyone yet explain how we are going to fully man these new battalions and keep them manned.

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There are a few rumors out there that the real reason for these fourth battalions was that was an easier sell than a "Special Troops Battalion," which was the actual goal. It doesn't sound overly plausible to me but then I haven't heard anyone yet explain how we are going to fully man these new battalions and keep them manned.

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Old 11-17-2009, 22:54   #25
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...I haven't heard anyone yet explain how we are going to fully man these new battalions and keep them manned.

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Start making offers to 50+year old fomer SF dudes; offers that they can't refuse

Instant credibility and instant war stories in every team room.

Hell I would come back if they paid me what i get now from DOJ.......

Hell I would be the bessssst paid TS in SF........and I would have some good war stories..... or at least make up some good ones for the kids......... Hell just use some of Old Bobby S....... stories......
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Old 11-18-2009, 08:28   #27
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Upper COC is killin us!

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As someone seeing this first hand right now it is horrible to witness. Those of us in the trenches i.e Cadre Team Sergeants, and Cadre O's watch all of our diligent work, counseling and recommendations get squashed by levels above. I wish I could show some of the MoR's.
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Old 11-18-2009, 15:23   #28
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Easy.

Graduate 750 plus students per year, regardless of standards.

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That made me vomit in my mouth...
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That made me vomit in my mouth...
How many do you think they are going to allow to fail SUT or Land Nav AFTER they go through several months of language training? How many recycles will you give a guy in Sage before he just gets passed on?

I will defer to the team guys here and SWCS instructors to tell you what they really think. I am a bit removed from the problem.

I wonder what is in the minds of the SF leadership. Not sure if they think this is a good idea, or are afraid to resign in protest of it.

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When we went to 8 classes a year at Robin sage, we tried getting someone dropped from the course, they just got recycled to the next class on another team. Unless he had a major safety valition where someone actually got hurt, they were going to gradulate. However most of my students that I had made the grade and given time on teams would be an asset down the road.

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