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Old 03-15-2019, 03:33   #1
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Christchurch NZ mosque terrorist attacks leave 49 dead

At least one shooter killed 49 at two Christchurch, New Zealand mosques, live streaming the attack on Facebook. Police have arrested a total of four people and rendered safe two IEDs in one suspect vehicle. One under arrest has been identified as a white Australian 28-year-old man. He uploaded his "manifesto" prior to the attack. His weapons and magazines can be seen covered with anti-immigrant messages.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/headlines.cfm?c_id=1
https://twitter.com/nzpolice
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Old 03-15-2019, 03:35   #2
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Forty were killed at one mosque, seven at the other, and so far one victim has died in hospital.
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Old 03-15-2019, 06:44   #3
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From one of the articles:

“He boasted that he chose to use firearms so he could influence politics in the US.”

“He wrote that he wanted to "create conflict between the two ideologies within the United States on the ownership of firearms in order to further the social, cultural, political and racial divide".

“And he ranted about his hopes that “this conflict over the 2nd amendment and the attempted removal of firearms rights will ultimately result in a civil war that will eventually balkanize the US along political, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines.”

“The suspected shooter described himself as an "ordinary white man born in Australia to a working class, low income family."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/864200...nders-breivik/
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Old 03-15-2019, 09:44   #4
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From one of the articles:

“He boasted that he chose to use firearms so he could influence politics in the US.”

“He wrote that he wanted to "create conflict between the two ideologies within the United States on the ownership of firearms in order to further the social, cultural, political and racial divide".

“And he ranted about his hopes that “this conflict over the 2nd amendment and the attempted removal of firearms rights will ultimately result in a civil war that will eventually balkanize the US along political, cultural and, most importantly, racial lines.”

“The suspected shooter described himself as an "ordinary white man born in Australia to a working class, low income family."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/864200...nders-breivik/
We'll have to wait on any pronouncements, but he sure sounds like an Oz version of one of our basement breeding Antifa Minillinials trying to stir up shiite?

Most already know, NZ has a very socially conscious government, not unlike Iceland, Sweden, & Holand. Where everyone is welcome and no-one is to blame.
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Old 03-15-2019, 09:55   #5
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We'll have to wait on any pronouncements, but he sure sounds like an Oz version of one of our basement breeding Antifa Minillinials trying to stir up shiite?

Most already know, NZ has a very socially conscious government, not unlike Iceland, Sweden, & Holand. Where everyone is welcome and no-one is to blame.
I think you nailed it JJ.

The chaos-loving bottom feeders are counting on the ability to divide and conquer.

The use of terrorism, the calls for revolution and the extensive use of subversion fits the bottom feeders narratives to a tee.
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We'll have to wait on any pronouncements, but he sure sounds like an Oz version of one of our basement breeding Antifa Minillinials trying to stir up shiite?
Before it gets "disappeared" there's at least 1 thread on ARFCOM in the Gen'l Discussion area that has his entire manifesto (done as a self-published Q&A). Worth a read.


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Most already know, NZ has a very socially conscious government, not unlike Iceland, Sweden, & Holand. Where everyone is welcome and no-one is to blame.
One Australian Senator has already cluster-bombed socialist media that stupid immigration policies are to blame in the first place.

This will have some larger-than-pebble ripples.
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Before it gets "disappeared" there's at least 1 thread on ARFCOM in the Gen'l Discussion area that has his entire manifesto (done as a self-published Q&A). Worth a read.

Thanks,
I grabbed a copy, all 60 pages.
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Old 03-15-2019, 13:14   #8
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Maybe we are being trolled?


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The Shooter’s Manifesto Was Designed to Troll

The violent rhetoric was written for an audience.
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In the hours after the horrific mass shootings at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, people desperately searched the internet for any sign of a motive or meaning behind the attack. Early Friday, a number of unverified social-media posts surfaced, along with a bizarre manifesto posted to 8chan, rich with irony and references to memes.

Together, the posts suggest that every aspect of the shootings was designed to gain maximum attention online, in part by baiting the media. The shooter live-streamed the attack itself on Facebook, and the video was quickly shared across *******, Twitter, and Instagram. Before committing the act, he shouted, “Remember, lads, subscribe to PewDiePie,” a reference to Felix Kjellberg, who runs *******’s most subscribed-to channel. The phrase itself is a meme started by PewDiePie’s fans, and its goal is to be reprinted.

Kjellberg, who has previously found himself embroiled in controversy over alleged anti-Semitism, disavowed the shooting on Twitter Friday morning. “Just heard news of the devastating reports from New Zealand Christchurch. I feel absolutely sickened having my name uttered by this person. My heart and thoughts go out to the victims, families and everyone affected by this tragedy,” he wrote. By forcing Kjellberg to acknowledge the attack, the shooter succeeded in further spreading the word about the crime to Kjellberg’s tens of millions of followers.

Significant portions of the manifesto appear to be an elaborate troll, written to prey on the mainstream media’s worst tendencies. As the journalist Robert Evans noted, “This manifesto is a trap … laid for journalists searching for the meaning behind this horrific crime. There is truth in there, and valuable clues to the shooter’s radicalization, but it is buried beneath a great deal of, for lack of a better word, ‘shitposting.’”

Shitposting is a slang term used to describe the act of posting trollish and usually ironic content designed to derail a conversation or elicit a strong reaction from people who aren’t in on the joke. Certain aspects of the shooter’s manifesto fall into this category. He includes Navy Seal Copypasta, a meme that originated on 4chan. He claims that Spyro: Year of the Dragon, a video game, taught him ethno-nationalism and that Fortnite taught him to “floss on the corpses,” referring to a viral dance move from the game. These absurd references are meant to troll readers.


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One more thought: the shooter makes repeated references to the “remove Kebab” meme, which is based on a propaganda video produced by Serb nationalist forces during the Bosnian War & Bosnian Genocide in 90s. Meshes w/ Obilić references & clear Breivik influence.
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Old 03-15-2019, 14:43   #9
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A troll who murders innocents is just another sick fu$k.

But, he feeds the extremes from both sides of the political spectrum the right shit - and potentially chaos ensues.

An extremely sick fu$k...or an anarchist.
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Old 03-15-2019, 16:26   #10
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The smaller 2nd attack with 7+ murdered was located directly adjacent to my wife's place of work.

Unfortunately, I'm about 350km away on the job.

There's a bit of inaccurate reporting and exploitation occurring compared to ground truth.

There were a few SMEs from up your way coincidentally not far away so that will hopefully help.

Innocence, naivete, complacency lost.
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Old 03-16-2019, 03:27   #11
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The smaller 2nd attack with 7+ murdered was located directly adjacent to my wife's place of work.

Unfortunately, I'm about 350km away on the job.

There's a bit of inaccurate reporting and exploitation occurring compared to ground truth.

There were a few SMEs from up your way coincidentally not far away so that will hopefully help.

Innocence, naivete, complacency lost.
Well, I'm glad your wife was unharmed. Yet, RIP to the innocent for just going to service. Mixed feelings on that. (Us knowing Muslims and all)
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Well, I'm glad your wife was unharmed. Yet, RIP to the innocent for just going to service. Mixed feelings on that. (Us knowing Muslims and all)
Cheers.

Staff at the practice and some family members are a bit of a mess at the moment. Fortunately the wife and kids are quite resilient.


Tough one in terms of unintended consequences of 1st, 2nd, 3rd order effects that will stem from this.
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And so it begins. I’m hoping that a number less than 50 (police and civilians) are killed taking the very tool that could have prevented the first loss of life at the Mosques.

In Australia crime went up over 200% and has remained high...
In England crime, home invasion, and murder has gone up over over 500% (based on some readings)

What will happen in New Zealand and how many people will resist this incredibly stupid ban.
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Old 03-21-2019, 05:56   #14
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"OMG - we were slaughtered!! Let's take the very tools away from us that would have prevented/mitigated it in the first place!!!"

The insanity is rampant. So far as myself, I'm with you ODNT. Not one freaking inch. No more restrictions.

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Old 03-21-2019, 08:05   #15
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meh

None of this has anything to do with gun safety or protection of religious freedoms. It's nothing more than the ruling class mitigating threats from their subjects.

but hey, we can call it whatever helps people sleep at night
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