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Old 08-07-2004, 23:02   #76
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I know this is a little late, but I would've recommeded any of the Nike ACG jackets; I have an All Mountain jacket that's served me well during kayaking trips. I've stayed bone dry through many a Class III run.

Problems I've encountered: 1.) It's Nike. It doesn't come in subdued colors. Everything...well, "pops." You'd make a swell target for somebody. 2.) The hood folds into the collar and therefore it seems a little flimsy. Mine hasn't ripped (yet), but I'm always expecting it to; the fact that it doesn't match the color of the jacket has always bothered me as well.

Anyway, they're good for "adventure" sports, but (maybe) not so swell for military use.

*hijack notice*

I hope this is isn't considered bad form or a tremendous faux pas, but I also need a new jacket. I found out recently that I'll be PCSing (as a dependent for now) to Germany. Apparently it snows there. I've never seen snow in my life.

Assumable Conditions- 0 to 32 degrees w/ occasional snowfall. Fairly rough use I guess (mainly rucking and running; trail, street). Don't know if a hood's important or not as I currently have a watch cap. Color isn't terribly important, but I don't want to look like I belong on , just crawled off a ski slope. White would be keen.

I've been looking at some Patagonia, North Face, Columbia Sportswear, etc. stuff but being an FNG it's kind of overwhelming. A bomber looks to be too bulky and a shell with a thermal/synthetic/whatever fleece doesn't appear to be enough. While I could get something that'll keep me warm without problem, I also want something that's functional- i.e., movement is not impaired. I'd like to keep up my training schedule while over there before coming back and going through BCT. So any help, assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Out of curiousity, what do the guys in the 10th SFG wear? They appear to be squared away (and warm!) in the vids over at goarmy.com. (Assuming of course that they are in the 10th.)

Thanks again (in advance) for any assistance. My apologies NDD for hijacking your thread.

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Old 08-08-2004, 09:32   #77
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Double Whammy Parka by Columbia

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Old 08-08-2004, 09:52   #78
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Out of curiousity, what do the guys in the 10th SFG wear? They appear to be squared away
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Old 08-08-2004, 10:09   #79
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preparing for a written drubbing...

Oh hell.

I knew I said something wrong.

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Old 08-08-2004, 12:36   #80
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Don't worry, KSaint. You obviously have a very sharp eye and are more perceptive than the average gringo expat. Those other guys are simply jealous.
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Old 08-08-2004, 12:48   #81
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Out of curiousity, what do the guys in the 10th SFG wear? They appear to be squared away (and warm!) in the vids over at goarmy.com. (Assuming of course that they are in the 10th.)
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Mmm....

The Gay Fashion Sense is strong with this Young Jedi....

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Old 08-09-2004, 10:01   #82
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Old 08-14-2004, 15:14   #83
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Filson

Anyone have experience with this company? There stuff seems to be a level above everyone else's, but so is the price. I just can't get over the oil finish.
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Old 08-14-2004, 15:18   #84
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Expensive, yuppie, Gucci outdoor gear, IMHO.

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Old 08-14-2004, 16:45   #85
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You got that right

Sponge there are alot better jackets out there for less than $300

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Old 08-14-2004, 21:26   #86
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Thanks for the quick replies...my friend swears by their stuff. Maybe if I can find something cheap on Ebay I'll give them a shot, but like you said, 300 is quite a bit of money for something I'm gonna beat the crap out of.
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I bought two OR fleece jackets from DBT on sale for $60 each. Nice and toasty. Very nice.

I gave one to Osama Bin Mama for not killing me in my sleep last year.
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Old 03-02-2006, 01:24   #88
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Beyond Fleece just started making tactical clothing. Their web site is listed below for those with deep pockets who already have their deployment Harley, deployment 1911...

http://www.beyondtactical.com/

I have one of their civilian fleece jackets and the quality is top notch.

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Old 03-02-2006, 09:21   #89
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NDD: Serious necro post.

Beyond Fleece just started making tactical clothing. Their web site is listed below for those with deep pockets who already have their deployment Harley, deployment 1911...

http://www.beyondtactical.com/

I have one of their civilian fleece jackets and the quality is top notch.

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Thanks for the tip.

I just checked out their site, WOW!!

By the time you add up the options, they will cost more than the garment itself does.

Checking to see what their discount is, if any.

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Old 03-02-2006, 16:07   #90
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Thanks for the tip.

I just checked out their site, WOW!!

By the time you add up the options, they will cost more than the garment itself does.

Checking to see what their discount is, if any.

TR
And after hearing about Beyond from TR, I was just up in the manufacturing facility located 15 miles north of here in Eugene, Oregon and met with the founder and owner.
Double WOW!! after seeing the quality of manufacturing in some finished jackets. This is serious gear.
Great guy too.

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