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Old 09-17-2020, 11:52   #361
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This.

IMHO, this and the article on the democratic staffer riot participation are the solution.

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https://www.wweek.com/news/2020/09/1...itter-account/

Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences.

Andy Ngo needs to inspire this nation wide.
Make rioters I mean protesters relate to LEO or any public servant having cell phone cameras trained on them

Who would have guessed? Cancel culture can go in both direction?!?
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Old 09-17-2020, 15:58   #362
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Andy Ngo needs to inspire this nation wide.
Make rioters I mean protesters relate to LEO or any public servant having cell phone cameras trained on them

Who would have guessed? Cancel culture can go in both direction?!?
Indeed! In Wisconsin, the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel (the slightly left-leaning rag from one of the major source of imported Antifa) did a large article explaining why they weren't going to mention the robust criminal histories of the 3 rioters that ended up getting shot by Kyle Rittenhouse as he fought to save his own life, and how it wasn't "relevant" to the discussion of the events. (NB: They used to be "way left", then were very balanced for several years, but have lately started picking up or bootlegging stories from AP, CNN, NBC News and other really biased sources. Their young "writers" are both lazy and likely part of the problem.)


Another Wisconsin area news site ran this counterview, which includes links to other articles as well as info about the rioters' criminal records.

Further, the same publication sounded some trumpets on another area miscreant, Brian Thomas Anderson:

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Brian Thomas Anderson, an organizer of communications for the main protest group that is disrupting Wauwatosa and demanding police reforms in that city, is a convicted felon and serial burglar with open felony criminal cases in two different counties.

He was most recently in court on September 11. He entered a no contest plea to a felony burglary charge in one of the open cases last June.

In between his ongoing court appearances, Anderson has spoken on behalf of the “The Peoples Revolution” group. He sent the key demand letter to the City of Wauwatosa in July on behalf of the protest group two weeks after being released on bond in one burglary case. Among other things, the letter demands the police chief’s termination and a freeze on the police budget. When a journalist asked for the “press person” of The Peoples Revolution to direct message him recently, Anderson was the one who wrote the journalist back.
Sunlight (or maybe complete immersion in hydrogen peroxide) is a wonderful weapon.
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Old 09-17-2020, 16:16   #363
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https://www.wweek.com/news/2020/09/1...itter-account/

Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences.

Andy Ngo needs to inspire this nation wide.
Make rioters I mean protesters relate to LEO or any public servant having cell phone cameras trained on them

Who would have guessed? Cancel culture can go in both direction?!?
FWIW, Ngo inquired directly of the author, one Sophie Peel, citing that he had direct contact with the PD's information officer and there was no record of any such 911 call, a threat or query on one of the cases she'd cited in an earlier article. He asked her directly if she was going to print a correction. She then popped smoke by using the old "since you've declined to answer my further questions my editor says you should talk directly to him." (Twitter equivalent of "click.")

Cowards - she's trying out for Zucker's team.
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Old 09-17-2020, 19:19   #364
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Interesting article currently on Breitbart, it sounds like the American Color Revolution is just over the horizon....courtesy of US State Department, George Soros, Tom Steyer and many others from the billionaire grifter class.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ght-like-hell/

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“On November 3rd. After you vote, get in the streets! Donald Trump must go and we must make it happen!” reads a post tweeted in August by the far-left ShutDownDC, an “organizing space” partnering with Protect the Results which plans to “rise up to confront the Trump administration’s attacks on democracy” and offers training sessions for coalition members to prepare to take “direct action.”
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Old 09-18-2020, 03:02   #365
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A couple other interesting links:

Here's one on Norm Eisen which also mentions several other names you will be familiar with

https://www.revolver.news/2020/09/me...esident-trump/

And Wednesday's Glenn Beck show, back to doing the old Glenn Beck with Chalk board. The link is on that not to be mentioned media platform with lots of videos.

https://www.*****be.com/watch?v=0HaXZgPD1VU
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Indeed! In Wisconsin, the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel (the slightly left-leaning rag from one of the major source of imported Antifa) did a large article explaining why they weren't going to mention the robust criminal histories of the 3 rioters that ended up getting shot by Kyle Rittenhouse as he fought to save his own life, and how it wasn't "relevant" to the discussion of the events. (NB: They used to be "way left", then were very balanced for several years, but have lately started picking up or bootlegging stories from AP, CNN, NBC News and other really biased sources. Their young "writers" are both lazy and likely part of the problem.)


Another Wisconsin area news site ran this counterview, which includes links to other articles as well as info about the rioters' criminal records.



Further, the same publication sounded some trumpets on another area miscreant, Brian Thomas Anderson:



Sunlight (or maybe complete immersion in hydrogen peroxide) is a wonderful weapon.
Well, we no longer treat wound w H2O2 as it kills both germs and healthy tissue, impeding healing.

Hummm I’m surely acquiring Box’s heavily tainted lens
We have criminals here asking to defund/abolish the police. That’s as authentic as it gets! Ignore their law breaking side and these are honest genuine people
And honest genuine people are decent people, and decent people have legitimate grievances and ....I’m so confused ��
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Old 09-18-2020, 03:07   #367
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Old 09-18-2020, 06:21   #368
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Another perspective or facet of the revolution from Lee Smith..

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The source of the purposeful disinformation pouring into the American public sphere like untreated sewage is the American elite, led by its tech oligarchs, who own the platforms on which information campaigns are staged and laundered to protect their core interests—foremost among them being cheap Chinese labor and access to Chinese markets.
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/n...s-fights-trump


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Well, we no longer treat wound w H2O2 as it kills both germs and healthy tissue, impeding healing.

Hummm I’m surely acquiring Box’s heavily tainted lens
We have criminals here asking to defund/abolish the police. That’s as authentic as it gets! Ignore their law breaking side and these are honest genuine people
And honest genuine people are decent people, and decent people have legitimate grievances and ....I’m so confused ��
That seems to correlate with Soros DA's releasing criminals aka 'Peaceful Protestors' back onto the streets to continue in their mischief, while people like the McCloskeys and Kyle Rittenhouse are prosecuted and persecuted. Criminal behavior is rewarded, and lawful behavior has repercussions. I believe I read in Gene Sharps From Dictatorship to Democracy that when this becomes the norm, the country or government is on the cusp of failing.
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Old 09-18-2020, 06:43   #369
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A couple other interesting links:
Extremely interesting read; very worth the time (it’s long)

Read all the replies too...this one stands out for some troubling reason:

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September 16, 2020 at 1:25 pm
Darren, firstly thank you for the hard work and effort to get this out. I completely get all this but what I am failing to understand is the motive, the timing and the rabidness of it all. The only thing that I can reasonably come up with is a sort of unholy alliance between the Chinese Communists and the leadership of the Democratic Party but even that seems simplistic. We were moving towards a concept of economic zones rather than nation states. China’s Belt and Road was progressing at a pace. The Eurozone was consolidating under the boot of Brussels and it seemed as if the UK would finally relinquish the pound and join fully in the “fun”. Then came Brexit, a real crack in the ediface.
Next up the 2016 election in the US. The deal was obviously that Hillary would continue the policies of Obama. Then the unthinkable. Trump won.
Everything we seem to be seeing now flows from these two events. The “Power Base” (whomever or whatever that is) is acting desperate. The question goes back to why. Throughout my many years on the planet Western governments have come and gone with little real fanfare or trouble so why the trouble now? What is the thing, the overarching goal we are all missing? Money and power are too simple an explanation. The actors on the left in this play are behaving as if their very lives depend on the outcome. Why would this be so? Is there someones ox that is about to be gored? We all know, or at least feel, there is something more to this but what is it? I thought you were getting to it last night on Carlson. It was kind of a pity you couldn’t finish.
I put the following up in the comments section of Gatestone. I actually believe it to be an accurate rendition of events, at least at a high level. Maybe I was right. We are now at War.
There are no accidents!
The obvious problem, that no one is addressing, comes from the mistaken belief that China would never deliberately infect their own people merely to provide cover for an attack on the West. A provocative thought to say the least. Impossible you say…not so fast. Riddle me this, how is it that a country of 1.4 billion with barely adequate medical care only had under 90 thousand infections and slightly over 4500 deaths? Maybe it is because that is the sort of collateral damage you would want in a field test to make it “look convincing”. We must always remember to the Chinese Communist Party citizens are soldiers. Could never happen? Tell that to the millions that lost their lives during the Cultural Revolution. Don’t think for a minute a country that believes that it must avenge the “great shame” the West inflicted upon her prior to Mao wouldn’t look for a way to destabilize America and Europe. The CCP is rife with that sort of vitriolic irredentism. If that wasn’t the intent the CCP would have locked Wuhan -indeed all of China- down to international travel as well. They would have gone out of their way to behave like responsible global partners. They didn’t. What they did was to use modern air travel as a means to share their new “present” with the West.
It is so obvious that the Chinese Communist Party deliberately used modern travel networks as a means of infecting and then hobbling the West that it barely warrants any sort of discussion at all. If the time-line isn’t damning enough to indict, the relative de minimis amount of infection and death in China in and of itself lends support to the view that the release of the virus was likely carefully planned. Indeed, one could reasonably argue that if the infection in Wuhan was not simply a means of covering up a bio engineered attack on the West then the number of infections and deaths in Hubei Province alone would have been much greater. Why? Simply because China would have been woefully unprepared for the onslaught. We in the West have much better medical care and had a sort of a heads-up and look what happened to us. As if it wasn’t enough to merely infect us they deliberately misdirected us as to the R0 factor and that it had become an airborne pathogen capable of human to human transmission so we would not adequately prepare. The Chinese are not lying about the numbers of infected and dead. The numbers in China are low by design. The West is being duped…again.
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Part 2 of John’s reply:

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As any decent military strategist well knows, bio-weapons are not intended to destroy an enemy rather they are used to demoralize and ruin your enemy’s economy and ability to wage war. In this respect it is certainly working quite well, at least on the economic front. Maybe even better than expected especially in a US election year. But if it wasn’t an engineered pathogen it scarcely matters. Natural or not the CCP still knew what it had, covered it up and unleashed it on the West. Then managed the release of information so we wouldn’t be properly prepared. The question, of course, is why now? Why strike at this particular time? My guess is it has something to do with the success of the American trade negotiations. Much as Japan felt compelled to attack Pear Harbour after Washington cut off her oil supplies in 1941 it could very well be that the trade deal was going to destabilize the Chinese economy. It certainly caused China to lose face. We have known for some time that China’s GDP numbers were grossly overstated and that its credit markets are in trouble. It is conceivable that China felt she had little choice but to try to level the playing field in order to buy time and further consolidate her Belt and Road initiative. If this line of reasoning is anywhere close to being true it underscores the point that the CCP are a very dangerous lot that can’t be trusted. The most troubling bit -and the very smart people at the Pentagon know this- could be that China or factions within the regime were/are getting ready for a first strike and this possibility is likely why the NORAD complex in Cheyenne Mountain was activated. It also may be why Russia offered and the US uncharacteristically accepted the gift of medical supplies. That was likely staged so that folks would know who was on what side in this. I suspect Putin was sending a not so subtle message that Russia sees what China is up to and that Xi Jinping (aka Winnie the Pooh) needs to tread very carefully.
Our failing is that we in the West expect China to have adopted Western values as she became more prosperous through trade with the West. The end goal was that prosperous trade would inexorably lead to the democratization of China replete with a western style of government. Indeed, that was part of George F. Kennan’s doctrine of containment. That has not occurred in China and will likely never materialize. The Chinese Communist Party is one of the most xenophobic regimes on the planet. Moreover, the goals of the West are incompatible with the goals of the CCP. The West evolved as a sisterhood of nation states with common values. China developed as a monolithic state which viewed people from outside the “Middle Kingdom” as physical and intellectual inferiors. The West seeks trade for economic benefit. China seeks to use trade as a means to dominate then destroy or subjugate the West. In their view the rise of the West in the 19th and 20th centuries is an aberration. In the long run, mere reparations for China deliberately infecting the West, even if they were proffered, are inadequate. The real long-term solution is that the CCP must be isolated much as Covid-19 must now be. Their recent threat of restricting medical supplies and pharmaceuticals was not an empty bluff. That we in the West are dependent on a hostile regime with long supply lines is hubris on steroids. The Chinese know this and view us as foolish for not recognizing our folly.
Stateside the squabbling in Washington continues to fascinate. Democrats seem to want to continue locking down their citizenry and by extension destroying their various state economies likely because they believe it’s the only way Mr. Biden, their very best dementia candidate for President, has a chance. China has not misread this. They know that in America we are divided and are our own worst enemy. So the Democrats yell and squeal about how Trump supposedly mismanaged the crisis desperately looking for anything to take him down. Daily television, internet and print media, our modern bread and circuses produce the pablum for the masses. Republicans gnash their teeth as the media deliberately misinterprets most everything and the dance goes on. Everyone vying for ratings, hopelessly selling the country they say they love down the proverbial drain for a dollar. Again, China has not misread this. Wouldn’t it just be icing on the cake if it came out that some Democrats were/are in cahoots with China to destabilize their own country for their own political ends? That is probably a bridge too far but who knows. Wouldn’t surprise me much though. Many have not behaved nor are they currently behaving as patriotic Americans. Someone should look into it because clearly something isn’t right here. Someone isn’t telling us the whole story.
Of course, this will be labelled a conspiracy theory or racist or something like it to distract our attention from what is really going on. What we often ignore however is that history is chock full of real conspiracies. Palace intrigue is alive and well on little ole planet Earth. If this were not so Machiavelli would be remembered as a kind old doddering relic and his gift of The Prince a quaint bedtime story. He and it have not been so viewed. As to the racism argument, the other screed used extensively to shut people up, there is so much of it on this rock and so much of it practised by peoples other than western societies that we should argue about it later when we have the luxury of being more introspective. Anyway, we all had better get our game faces on folks because like it or not we are already at war.
Good luck out there.
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The Comment

The comment is definitely an eye catcher. Short as it is, it is very complete with obvious concerns. The “why now” and “why so hard” truly must grab anyone’s attention.

I do agree we’re gonna have a very warm winter.
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100% correct CHINA is at WAR with the U S A , BUT, The U S A is not at war with anyone outside of CONUS. The Deep State, is alive & well inside the DC Beltway. The familiar actors both the elected and the unelected bureaucrats continue to exercise their control over the citizens of the U S A with a lot of help from the propaganda from the MSM. I am not surprised that the CCP developed this Wuhan China Virus in a Bio-lab. The Chinese top Bio-Weapons expert Dr.Chen Wi also a Maj.General in the CCP Army was the head of the L4 lab that worked on the SARS-CoV-2 virus that targeted the e-gene which codes for the envelope that surrounds the viral shell. There is a lot of information on this virus that is not being shared by the researchers in Dr. Chen Wi's lab. Where is Dr. Wi, we saw a lot of Dr.Fauci & Dr. Brix & they only information they divulged was "wash you hands", social distance & wear a mask... A.Fauci MD has been at NIH forever & He is the director of NIAID there.
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IMHO, it's not advisable to put counter-advertising with promises that won't be carried out.

Let's face it, the complicit MSM is very effective in countering this.
Look at the lawyer couple who stood their ground, albeit foolishly i.e. brandishing.
Look at the facebook message group that rallied militia to Kenosha.
No one wants to ruin their law-abiding lives, reputation, finances etc. against thugs who know to push just mere micrometer away from the threshold. It should be no surprise the riots comprise of society rejects with rap sheets (interspersed with privileged kids who are too dumb to realize what they got themselves into). These people got nothing to lose!

That's why glocktalk and arfdotcom are full with posts idolizing Kyle Rittenhouse because he puts their words into action. Even in Kenosha, the heavily armed presence on the rooftop did not sling lead at the people pushing dumpster on fire because of awareness of legal repercussion. I assert that this is also why pedo agitator dared to yell "shoot me n*****" repeatedly at the armed group. He knew the tacticool adults had too much to lose. One teenager proved him wrong, however. Dead wrong.

Add Jake Gardner (RIP) to that list.
When mob justice (And media) overturns a self defense determination by the DA...

Godspeed to any of you who decide to stand your ground. The peaceful protests have moved to residential too and apparently having a flag would make you a target.
The choices are now getting beat senseless by mob or getting beat senseless by mob justice

I don’t recognise my country anymore
I doubt even a red wave in Nov can bring healing to all parties
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I don’t recognise my country anymore
I doubt even a red wave in Nov can bring healing to all parties
I think we are waaaay past the point of being worried about healing.

Some injuries are mortal wounds and expending the contents of your aid-bag on an expectant patient only endangers others that have a good shot at survival. Sometimes the best treatment is a quick coup de grâce.


There are tens of millions of Americans that for reasons known only to them, have no intention of becoming my friend. They despise me because of my beliefs.
-They worship a man that said the problem with people like me is that we cling to our guns and religion and antipathy to people that aren't like us...
...yet they know nothing about what we cling to and have no intention of learning.
-They worship a woman that said people like me are not only deplorable - we are irredeemable.
-They worship a supreme court justice that said she would move to New Zealand if "her candidate" for POTUS didn't win.
-They now worship a woman who slept her way into politics, has so dishonored her family heritage that her father has actually spoken out in public to correct her lies, and called her boss a racist - but is willing to play ball to continue moving up the ladder of leftist corruption.
-They worship an ideal that suggests the only reason people would disagree with them is because those people are racists, bigots, misogynists, and generally bad people.
-They reject any suggestion that they might be wrong.


No thanks - I'm not going to waste room in my pack carrying band-aids when the opposition has clearly and repeatedly stated that they will give no quarter.
I'd expect more mercy from the Dread Pirate Roberts.


Sorry, my heart has been hardened.
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