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Old 03-07-2018, 14:01   #31
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South African born and bred. Irish citizenship/ passport - won't be making use of it.
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Old 03-07-2018, 16:25   #32
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Wow, thanks (I guess, not good), for the knowledge of the happenings.

As mentions earlier...water, septic/sewer, disabled, leave them nothing.

How about the 'ol "scorched Earth" policy??

I think we've had no news here is ...well, because of you know, not the agenda...BLM and such. Africans are the "down trodden" people...

If the world only knew... damn

I pray your family members fair well...
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Old 03-07-2018, 18:42   #33
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Guy,
I have some SA's telling me this is all overblown and not representative of the real SA today....putting a happy face on it.
This is on a website I hang out on...Porsche Pelican in Politics and Religion.....its not like what one hears in the news etc....

I posted your comment without your name and some of your other stuff....

Whistling past the grave I suspect.
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Old 03-08-2018, 01:12   #34
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Guy,
I have some SA's telling me this is all overblown and not representative of the real SA today....putting a happy face on it.
This is on a website I hang out on...Porsche Pelican in Politics and Religion.....its not like what one hears in the news etc....

I posted your comment without your name and some of your other stuff....

Whistling past the grave I suspect.
PRB, If the US government made it their policy to take all property without compensation, you would maybe have a big portion of liberals telling everyone not to panic. The rest of the country would be reaching for their rifles I imagine. In SA there are those who will go to any lengths to appease the crocodile in the vain hope that they will be eaten last.
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Old 03-08-2018, 03:22   #35
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MAXINE WATERS ????

WHAT DOES THE AMERICAN ELECTORATE REALLY KNOW ABOUT M. WATERS? 1. Her Education,GPA (if she attended a University& Was Graduated) 2..EXPERIENCE, as a Legislator & other jobs aside from congress? 3. Voting Record in Congress + Her attendance record.? 4. Her lifestyle compared to her salary.? 5. Her accomplishments as a legislator.? The main stream media will not report any of this information? LET'S FIND OUT about M.Waters Tom Kelly
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Old 03-08-2018, 05:28   #36
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PRB, If the US government made it their policy to take all property without compensation, you would maybe have a big portion of liberals telling everyone not to panic. The rest of the country would be reaching for their rifles I imagine. In SA there are those who will go to any lengths to appease the crocodile in the vain hope that they will be eaten last.
Well said; I can absolutely see that playing out in a number of spots in the world and the commie politicians, via the media, telling everyone "keep calm, all is well" - in one language or another.
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Old 03-08-2018, 06:13   #37
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Excuse me???????

http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/05/ma...ack-americans/





I love this congresscrazybitch, she's the "black" nancy pelosi. Both bat-shit crazy.
If there are going to be reparations they will have to exceed $1000.00, the dems have told us that amount this just crumbs.
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Old 03-08-2018, 08:45   #38
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I love this congresscrazybitch, she's the "black" nancy pelosi. Both bat-shit crazy.
Between Nancy & Maxine they have +150 years of "stealing" America's oxygen...
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Old 08-20-2018, 08:23   #39
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...I have some SA's telling me this is all overblown and not representative of the real SA today....putting a happy face on it...
And so it begins...

South Africa begins seizing white-owned farms

Just two farms right now but it's a start.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/econ...4ffb648ea5c53b

"...While the government says it intends to pay, owners Akkerland Boerdery wanted 200 million rand ($18.7 million) for the land — they’re being offered just 20 million rand ($1.87 million).

“Notice is hereby given that a terrain inspection will be held on the farms on April 5, 2018 at 10am in order to conduct an audit of the assets and a handover of the farm’s keys to the state,” a letter sent to the owners earlier this year said.

Akkerland Boerdery obtained an urgent injunction to prevent eviction until a court had ruled on the issue, but the Department of Rural Development and Land Affairs is opposing the application...."
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Old 08-20-2018, 08:35   #40
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And so it begins...

South Africa begins seizing white-owned farms

Just two farms right now but it's a start.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/econ...4ffb648ea5c53b

"...While the government says it intends to pay, owners Akkerland Boerdery wanted 200 million rand ($18.7 million) for the land — they’re being offered just 20 million rand ($1.87 million).

“Notice is hereby given that a terrain inspection will be held on the farms on April 5, 2018 at 10am in order to conduct an audit of the assets and a handover of the farm’s keys to the state,” a letter sent to the owners earlier this year said.

Akkerland Boerdery obtained an urgent injunction to prevent eviction until a court had ruled on the issue, but the Department of Rural Development and Land Affairs is opposing the application...."
Shit-hole-ification continues...maybe SA leaders are consulting with Venezuelan leaders...and our Progressives...
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Old 08-20-2018, 08:55   #41
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And so it begins...

South Africa begins seizing white-owned farms

Just two farms right now but it's a start.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/econ...4ffb648ea5c53b

"...While the government says it intends to pay, owners Akkerland Boerdery wanted 200 million rand ($18.7 million) for the land — they’re being offered just 20 million rand ($1.87 million).

“Notice is hereby given that a terrain inspection will be held on the farms on April 5, 2018 at 10am in order to conduct an audit of the assets and a handover of the farm’s keys to the state,” a letter sent to the owners earlier this year said.

Akkerland Boerdery obtained an urgent injunction to prevent eviction until a court had ruled on the issue, but the Department of Rural Development and Land Affairs is opposing the application...."
Lets see how much News play this gets here...

I will wager none...
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Old 08-20-2018, 14:53   #42
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South Africa Goes Zimbabwe

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Zimbabwe had already made great strides in improving agriculture through land seizures.

Land was stolen from the farmers who knew how to work it and handed out to politically connected thugs. Soon the former "bread basket" of Southern Africa was starving. Black groups pleaded with the white farmers to remain. Rural Zimbabwe died. Hyperinflation made the currency worthless. A trillion dollars might not be enough to buy one egg. A former food exporter was forced to rely on food aid.
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Old 08-20-2018, 17:45   #43
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More from the article cut and pasted below...GD Commies...communism wrecks everything it touches...paying attention Bernie supporters?

“Like Zimbabwe, South Africa is due to revisit the same implacable economic consequences of land seizures that took the Soviet Union down the road to famine and terror. Toward its end, the USSR, despite possessing territories that had once bulged with rich harvests, had gone deep into debt to buy food from the United States. The African National Congress’ Communist roots are taking South Africa down the same path as its fallen Communist masters. And with the same miserable results.

Comrade Ramaphosa, as Comrade Mandela liked to call him, is less of a strongman, than a weak man. More afraid of thugs like Julius Malema and the greed of his ANC comrades than of dooming his people to hunger. The ANC is populated with thugs who are impatiently waiting to loot South Africa’s corpse. And they’ve grown tired of pretending that they are anything more than a failed state’s Marxist mob.”
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:20   #44
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Personally, I don’t give a crap what goes on in South Africa, it’s extremely corrupt, communist and is “ruled” by highly unintelligent people.

That said, America will be involved soon enough attempting to feed the very individuals that are now confiscating “white owned” farms. It does not take a genius to make the leap that when the extremely corrupt South African government does in fact seize the farms, the very farms that feed 80% of the people in that country, some in that government (and their left-wing elite “friends”) will become very rich land owners and the country will starve.

This slow-moving train wreck will make the socialist/communist dictatorship of Venezuela look like a Disney movie.

South Africa will soon become “Somalia 2.0”.

And when your “children” are fighting & dying in south africa while attempting to feed the millions of starving people, you can thank the left-wing “elite”.





http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ca-seized.html


White farmers try to offload land in South Africa before it is seized from them 'as government tries to grab first two hunting reserves without paying'

Union bosses in South Africa say record number of farms are up for sale
But nobody is willing to buy the land amid fears the government will seize it
There are fears investment will fall leading to job losses that may rob South Africa of the ability to feed itself
Game reserve owners say they are the first to be targeted for seizure after talks with government to buy land at a tenth of its value broke down

By Chris Pleasance for MailOnline

Published: 05:28 EDT, 20 August 2018 | Updated: 13:42 EDT, 20 August 2018

White farmers in South Africa are trying to flog their land as fears grow that the government is about to start a widespread campaign of seizures.

Union bosses say a record number of properties are for sale but nobody is buying, making the properties effectively worthless.

Agri SA union, which represents mainly white commercial farmers, has warned that such seizures will deter investment, cause job losses, and may rob South Africa of the ability to feed itself.

Meanwhile two farms in the north of the country have reportedly become the first targets for seizures after talks between the government and owners about buying the land broke down.

Akkerland Boerdery, the owners of two game reserves in Limpopo, told City Press that the government asked to buy their land but was only willing to offer a tenth of the price.

When the offer was refused, ministers allegedly sent a letter which said: 'Notice is hereby given that a terrain inspection will be held on the farms on April 5 2018 at 10am in order to conduct an audit of the assets and a handover of the farm's keys to the state.'

AgriSA union spokeswoman Annelize Crosby told the paper: 'What makes the Akkerland case unique is that they apparently were not given the opportunity to first dispute the claim in court, as the law requires.'

If the land is seized it will be the first time that the South African government has refused to pay market value for land.

Since the end of apartheid in 1994, the ANC has followed a 'willing seller, willing buyer' process to redistribute white-owned farms to blacks.

But according to a government audit last year, 72 per cent of farmland in South Africa is still owned by whites, despite them making up 9 per cent of the population.

That statistic prompted Cyril Ramaphosa, South Africa's president who succeeded Jacob Zuma last year, to commit to a program of land expropriation.

His ANC party has promised to 'test out' section 25 of the constitution, which allows the government to seize land to re-balance past 'racially discriminatory laws'.

The constitution makes it clear that reasonable compensation must be offered to the owner of the land, but the ANC is now planning a number of test cases to see if land can be seized without money changing hands if it is 'in the public interest'.


A program of land seizures in nearby Zimbabwe in the 1990s sent the country into an economic spiral from which it has never fully recovered.

Reports earlier this month suggested ministers have already drawn up a list of 139 South African farms to be targeted, though the government denies the existence of any such list.

Omri van Zyl, head of the Agri SA union, which represents mainly white commercial farmers, told The Express: 'The mood among our members is very solemn.

'They are confused about the lack of any apparent strategy from the government and many are panicking.

'So many farms are up for sale, more than we've ever had, but no one is buying.'

ANC chairman Gwede Mantashe sparked more panic last week when he suggested that anyone owning more than 25,000 acres would be targeted.

Agri SA said about 20 per cent of South Africa's farms produce 80 per cent of the food, and many of those properties would be affected by the cap.

There are fears that the release of the list of 139 farms to be seized has already made the land worthless.

Cattle farmer Jo-an Engelbrecht told the ABC's Foreign Correspondent his farm just outside Johannesburg was now 'worth zero'.

'We had several auctions in the last two or three weeks cancelled because there was no people interested in buying the land,' he said.

'Why would you buy a farm to know the government's going to take it?'
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Old 08-21-2018, 09:40   #45
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If I knew my land was about to be seized, I would seriously consider destroying the land to make it non-arable as a big "FU" to the thieves taking it under the guise of government.
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