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Old 10-12-2017, 13:03   #1
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Marijuana Growers Risk Being Wiped Out by California Fires

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Marijuana Growers Risk Being Wiped Out by California Fires


For many businesses in northern California, it will take years to rebuild from the wildfires that have decimated the region. For many legal cannabis growers, the destruction could be insurmountable.

At least six marijuana farms have been destroyed, said Hezekiah Allen, executive director at the California Growers Association. That number is likely to rise significantly as communications come back online and people who have evacuated the area are allowed to return and assess damages.

The growers face a challenging outlook because they don’t have access to a key lifeline in the world of agriculture: crop insurance. They also have little, if any, access to loans as banks continue to shy away from businesses selling a product that’s illegal under federal law. If the region receives federal relief, pot farmers can’t get that either. So their cost of rebuilding will be entirely out-of-pocket.

“A lot of folks’ hopes and dreams for legal cannabis are in ashes or covered in smoke right now,” Allen said.

Governor Jerry Brown declared a state of emergency across eight counties as 21 large fires have burned across about 191,000 acres of land as of Thursday morning, according to Cal Fire, the state’s Department of Forestry and Fire Protection. At least 23 people have died, with more than 20,000 evacuated and at least 3,500 structures destroyed. The National Weather Service issued red flag warnings and watches for the region on Wednesday and Thursday, indicating significant risk of increases in wildfire activity.

The size of the marijuana fields destroyed were about a quarter of an acre on average, Allen said. One farm was burned in the Atlas Fire in the Napa Valley, three were lost in the Santa Rosa area and at least two were destroyed in Mendocino.

Narrow Escape

The harrowing tales include one member of the growers association who woke up to a knock on her door at 2 a.m. She and her two children barely escaped their home, which burned to the ground 15 minutes later.

Hard-hit Mendocino County, along with Humboldt and Trinity counties, form the so-called Emerald Triangle -- perhaps the capital of the U.S. cannabis industry.

California legalized marijuana for medicinal use in 1996 and for recreational purposes last November. The industry’s sales will reach $5.8 billion by 2021, according to the research unit of cannabis investment firm Arcview Group. That’s up from $1.8 billion last year. The opportunity has sparked what’s been dubbed as the Green Rush, as growers scramble to get a toehold.

But the price of getting in is high. Farmers have to pay for permits, water forms and licenses to grow the crop. They also contend with some of the same weather-related risks as traditional farmers, but without access to banking services or the ability to write off business expenses on taxes.

“A lot of the growers, the one up in Mendocino in particular who I talked to, she’s really spent her life savings over the last year getting permits and water forms,” Allen said.

Smoke Damage

Even marijuana crops that aren’t engulfed by the flames are at risk. As with wine, smoke damage can alter the taste of the product and reduce its price significantly. Some harvests might be salvageable, but many will be lost.

Cannabis’s illegal federal status has blocked growers from any form of federal crop insurance.

“Since hemp is classified as a prohibited substance under federal law, it is not eligible for federal crop insurance,” Heather Manzano, acting administrator of the Risk Management Agency, said in a statement. The agency oversees government insurance for farmers.

While some cannabis-specific insurance companies have started to appear, they may not cover plants destroyed by the fire and the companies are new largely untested.

One insurer, Cleveland-based Cannasure, only provides casualty or general liability insurance for cannabis crops that are grown indoors.

“It’s fair to say this is an uninsured crop,” Allen said. “These farmers are living year to year.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...lifornia-fires
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Old 10-12-2017, 13:34   #2
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That's a real shame.
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Old 10-12-2017, 14:14   #4
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Any chance this was intentional? I know the legalization is cutting into profits south of the border...
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Supply & Demand...
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Lightbulb Supply & Demand...

I guess since CA "supply" of weed will be reduced; the "demand" from surrounding states will increase right along with trafficking arrests....
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This has a bit more depth..

Kalifornicate and Colorado derive massive amounts of taxes from the new and growing pot industry. Estimates of 8 BILLION dollar business for Ca..

For a state that is already 120 BILLION in debt,,
Gov Brown is going to feel the burn..


Here is a article: http://thehill.com/homenews/state-wa...lifornia-study
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Old 10-12-2017, 19:36   #7
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Interesting insights in these posts.

Imagine trying to run operations for fire crews in situations like that?

I sometimes think of what Mendocino and Humboldt counties were like, say in 1966...with a limited understanding there are some unsettling dynamics in that area today ( interesting customers ...

In Colorado there are a large number of house fires that are grow house (electrical) related which subsequently turn into wildfires so it will be interesting to see what turns up. I saw this the other day which combined with insurance rates on the spectrum of accidents. http://www.denverpost.com/2017/08/25...ic-fatalities/

The extent of the monies and taxes as mentioned are probably just as you imagine... Perhaps leading to a dependency of revenue that may not be there in the future?
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Hope the fire fighters are wearing oxygen masks.
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I was born in Humboldt County and lived there on and off most of my life.
I thought that you were an Okie! False advertising!!!!

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Old 10-12-2017, 23:07   #10
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Sounds like great memories and reminds me of the Olympic Peninsula...with less rain.

Garberville is one of the places that comes to mind, seems to be many factions there now. Even with a legalized growing industry there are always those that will go into the forests, rent housing, build clandestine grow rooms, etc... When you can't afford a house, need to stay off the radar ie. Cartels and illegals or for what ever reasons those elements are more likely to be off grid.
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Old 10-13-2017, 05:34   #11
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Poor old Governor Jerry Brown. His aura smiles, he never frowns; soon he'll be president. As for the burning marijuana crops, it makes me wear a happy face. The hippies won't come back, you say
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Old 10-13-2017, 06:10   #12
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Is this simply the modern version of the moonshine era of old?
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I met a traveler who hails from the area where the fires started at a local Outback Steakhouse last night and a discussion about the situation came up. I asked if the media was correct in stating that the fires were started by high winds knocking down power lines and the ensuing sparks were the source of ignition. His response was that although he had heard that, too, it didn't explain how the fires sprang up in 14 different areas. Anybody else hear about multiple ignition sites?
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I thought the same thing.

This is a technique that has been successfully employed before.

Does tremendous damage and ties up huge resources.

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I thought the same thing.

This is a technique that has been successfully employed before.

Does tremendous damage and ties up huge resources.

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I'd imagine if the power lines came down in multiple areas it would look like arson..........

Driving around in parts of calif and viewing how they build houses, anywhere and everywhere in a high planes desert with lots of foliage and constant high winds
you think they learn by now.

The only reason Arizona is not constantly on fire (and we have lots of fires) is the lack of high winds and lack of foliage. (In the Phoenix area anyway.) Northern Arizona, lots of fires.







PG&E Warns Power Lines Not Rated to Withstand 60 MPH Weekend Winds

By CHRISS W. STREET14 Oct 2017Newport Beach, CA41


Friday night wind gusts of 55-miles an hour forced mandatory Wine Country evacuations as PG&E warned their electrical lines are only rated up to handle 56-mile an hour winds.
Breitbart News reported that Wine Country temperatures were expected to steadily rise by 14 degrees and winds gusts could hit 60-miles an hour over the weekend. But as temperatures began to rise and wind gusts rose up to 55-miles per hour on Friday night, the National Weather Service raised its Sunday and Monday forecasted highs by 2 degrees to 88-degrees. The higher temperatures increase the risk of stronger winds.

Pacific Gas & Electric stock (PCG: NYSE) plunged by 17 percent over the last two days after reports that Sonoma and Napa County emergency dispatchers sent crews out on Tuesday and Wednesday to investigate reports of over a dozen down powerlines and numerous exploding transformers as wind gusts may have magnified the firestorm.

PG&E told the local Fox News affiliate, “The historic wind event that swept across PG&E service area late Sunday and early Monday packed hurricane-strength winds in excess of 75 mph in some cases.” The wind speeds are important because powerlines under California Public Utility rules must be rated to sustain 56-miles an hour winds for 60 seconds. Hurricane winds are defined as a minimum of 75-miles per hour winds for a 60 second period.

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PG&E blamed high winds for downing powerlines after five years of drought, coupled with “recent renewed vegetation growth from winter storms,” contributed to “trees, branches and debris impacting our electric lines across the North Bay.” Their spokesman added, “Where those have occurred, we have reported them to the CPUC and CalFire. Our thoughts are with all those individuals who were impacted by these devastating wildfires.”

CalFire, that coordinates state and local fire authority response, responded to press inquiries by stating its investigators are out in the field and have not ruled out any cause for the fire.

But liability attorney Frank Pitre told the Mercury News that “This is classic PG&E — trying to spin things without first taking a look at the hard facts.” He claims that the wind gusts peaked at only 32 miles per hour, meaning that the “winds were well within the threshold of design standards. If they failed, this was a failure in their system.”

PG&E in 2015 paid a record Public Utility Commission fine $1.6 billion for the San Bruno gas pipeline explosion that caused the death of 8 people and an $8.3 million fine for the Butte Fire that burned 71,000 acres and destroyed 921 structures. In both cases, PG&E did not communicate quickly enough the contributing failure of its infrastructure.

The potential liability for PG&E in the Wine Country fires could be extraordinary. Northern California’s 2015 Valley and Butte fires that burned 150,000 acres, caused 8 deaths, destroyed 2,776 structures was estimated by California Insurance Commissioner Dave Jones to have caused about $1 billion in insurance losses. But this year’s Wine Country fires have burned at least 178,000 acres, caused 36 deaths, left 250 missing and destroyed at least 6,400 structures.

The Valley and Butte fires were mostly in very rural or mountainous areas where homes are relatively inexpensive for the state. But this year’s fires have burned through the heart of the California’s fabled Wine Country where a 1,412 square-foot postage stamp 2 bedroom home in Napa is offered for $838,0000, and many “sustainable” homes are offered from $2.3 million to $9.8 million.


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