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mojaveman 09-12-2015 11:34

German city transformed by refugees
 
Erfurt is a beautiful old European city. Taught English there for two years about ten years ago. Can't believe
this is happening.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/12/wo...ants.html?_r=0

Sigaba 09-12-2015 11:50

From the article cited in the OP.
Quote:

The migrant crisis is not just a humanitarian imperative, it is an opportunity. Germany has among the lowest birthrates in Europe. The population is shrinking and aging, particularly in the former East.

“I just met a refugee family with five children,” Dieter Lauinger, the state minister for migration, said. “Five children. These people could be paying our retirement.” Businesses in the region are looking for 3,000 apprentices. Electricians and builders are in demand. Doctors and teachers, too.

PRB 09-12-2015 11:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sigaba (Post 592842)
From the article cited in the OP.

Yes, and totally changing the culture

Paslode 09-12-2015 13:57

Greenburg, Kansas had a tornado back in 2007 which put the town back in the 1800's so to speak.......they had a huge surge in birth rates, so much so they had to increase the size of the schools. The number I recall is a 60% increase.

Amazing what happens when the comforts of modern day society are not available.

TOMAHAWK9521 09-12-2015 16:22

If I recall, this is the method for their "Stealth Jihad". Well, more like an accelerated version. Get in to Europe and every other western country and start pumping kids out with multiple wives to create huge litters, who are then raised in the islamist ways who then grow and repeat the process. And if you start pushing back against them, well then you're just a racist who is soon to be in the minority.

Flagg 09-13-2015 01:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOMAHAWK9521 (Post 592870)
If I recall, this is the method for their "Stealth Jihad". Well, more like an accelerated version. Get in to Europe and every other western country and start pumping kids out with multiple wives to create huge litters, who are then raised in the islamist ways who then grow and repeat the process. And if you start pushing back against them, well then you're just a racist who is soon to be in the minority.

The only thing I would ad is:

Doing it in poverty by draining the progressive western states of every welfare/support dollar possible while creating non permissive ghettos as platforms to build their base of ethnic-socio-political influence and control.

I think of it like the Irish and Italian organised crime networks of the last century before those greater ethnic networks migrated out of the ghettos, then working class neighbourhoods, then middle class suburbs....except for it being a far greater political/socio-religious doctrinal threat.

Not that there's the money for it(nor should it be spent on it), but if they all achieved the American Dream(or local version of it) I think the risk would be reduced(possibly quite dramatically).

But that's a pipe dream, and I reckon the bad guys will be working hard to build walls, moats, and defensible non permissive ghettos to operate with complete freedom of manoeuvre from host nation security forces.

Look at the North African ghettos of suburban Paris for examples or Sweden's severely misguided immigrant ghettos.

Team Sergeant 09-13-2015 09:17

The final invasion of Europe has begun in earnest. Notice that the middle eastern countries will not even take the "refugees".

I'd visit now, before shria law takes over and bans travel....:munchin

eine_frau 09-13-2015 10:29

Then half of the Europeans would try to flee to the States:p

Team Sergeant 09-13-2015 10:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by eine_frau (Post 592919)
Then half of the Europeans would try to flee to the States:p

We're already here, been here what, 300+ years? :munchin

eine_frau 09-13-2015 10:46

True.
I hope you left some room for the rest if us.

(I was wondering if I should write this in pink, but then decided I am dead serious. If Sharia comes here, I am coming to the States...)

Richard 09-13-2015 11:11

Quote:

The final invasion of Europe has begun in earnest. Notice that the middle eastern countries will not even take the "refugees".
Some, maybe, but...

"Saudi Arabia said it has taken in about 2.5 million Syrians on religious and humanitarian grounds in the years since the country's conflict began and has offered residency to hundreds of thousands, as it sought to rebut suggestions that oil-rich Gulf states should do more to address the plight of refugees fleeing civil war."

http://www.voanews.com/content/saudi...y/2961168.html

I saw a news program last night which interviewed Syrian refugees in camps in Lebanon. One family had been there for 2 years now. The father stated that they thought the Syrian crisis would clear up in 4 or 5 months and they could all return home. Now he said it was hopeless and the family was seeking to emigrate to Europe to take his children out of there.

A migration crisis and a complicated mess it is.

Richard

mojaveman 09-13-2015 17:15

Germany restricting border taffic with Austria
 
Germany introduced border controls on Sunday, and dramatically halted all their train traffic with Austria, after the country's regions said they could no longer cope with the overwhelming number of refugees entering the country.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...gency-measures

SF_BHT 09-13-2015 17:51

Well Germany has pulled their heads out of the sand. They just started border checkpoints because they can not support the influx of refugees.

http://news.yahoo.com/passports-plea...223132653.html

Team Sergeant 09-14-2015 08:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard (Post 592930)
Some, maybe, but...

"Saudi Arabia said it has taken in about 2.5 million Syrians on religious and humanitarian grounds in the years since the country's conflict began and has offered residency to hundreds of thousands, as it sought to rebut suggestions that oil-rich Gulf states should do more to address the plight of refugees fleeing civil war."

http://www.voanews.com/content/saudi...y/2961168.html

Richard[/COLOR]

That's what the "saudis" said. I'm guessing you've never worked with them before? :munchin

And who's "confirming" this statement? (The same folks that think allowing Iran to conduct it's own nuclear weapons inspections.......)

"Neville Chamberlain-obama was the British prime minister as England entered World War II. He is known for his policy of "appeasement" toward Adolf Hitler's Nazi Germany."

Streck-Fu 09-14-2015 09:24

The Saudis are giving work permit visas to Syrians. Not quite the same as the refugees but I'm ok with that. The European countries should consider it. "While you are here, what kind of skills do you have? We can use garbage men and street sweepers as well medical workers if you are skilled."

TOMAHAWK9521 09-14-2015 21:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Streck-Fu (Post 592991)
The Saudis are giving work permit visas to Syrians. Not quite the same as the refugees but I'm ok with that. The European countries should consider it. "While you are here, what kind of skills do you have? We can use garbage men and street sweepers as well medical workers if you are skilled."

If I recall, that is what NZ requires of you before they grant you citizenship. You have to have a skill they want/need in order to be allowed in.

Flagg 09-14-2015 23:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOMAHAWK9521 (Post 593035)
If I recall, that is what NZ requires of you before they grant you citizenship. You have to have a skill they want/need in order to be allowed in.

There's a few pathways to entry down here.

That's one of them: skills based.

Not only measurable/evidence based skillsets, but to a high minimum NZ/western standard.

A doctor/dentist qualified in a Syrian hospital would be hard pressed to be granted practice license.

I know a Columbian dentist who worked as a dental nurse for two years before gaining practice license by testing out.

The greatest GP/family doctor ever(ours) is from Spain and he found it far easier.

The government does a pretty good job of staying on top of the critical skills list, adding/deleting as needed.

Other ways include: capital invested, entrepreneurial, and refugee.

All based on high barrier medical/character.

We did a poor job at vetting Somali refugees(Canada did a much better job vetting first with a better result).

Our results with Afghans has been much better. Great job at assimilating/integrating with no negative issues so far, and plenty of positives.

We even managed to get a few extra interpreters over the stated special visa quota to do the right thing.

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Sadly, we didn't get one in due to family already in NZ failing to follow advise and trying to getting in under tourist visa. Huge red flag and knocked back for years due to deceptive application.

That's what you get for playing silly buggers.

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Australia is taking the big lead for the region(due to location, capability, and relative risk) in funding an illegal immigrant detention centre in Papua New Guinea to more aggressively deal with the problem offshore.

Large numbers of unvetted Afghan fighting age males with some riots taking place and the locals less than thrilled and ready to take scalps at times.

Australia is also rumoured to have made some payoffs(beyond informat payments) to try and mitigate human trafficking.

So even problems way down here.

We're lucky to have a nasty sea and a big brother in between us and the problem.

Flagg 09-14-2015 23:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOMAHAWK9521 (Post 593035)
If I recall, that is what NZ requires of you before they grant you citizenship. You have to have a skill they want/need in order to be allowed in.

Oh nearly forgot.

We used to be 3 years, now 5 before citizenship grant can be done.

I still reckon Switzerland's 10 year wait, local comimunity vote, and possibility of entire nuclear family being ejected for failure of just 1 to abide laws is a good minimum standard. That's how I understand the Swiss run it.

Streck-Fu 09-15-2015 05:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flagg (Post 593038)
Oh nearly forgot.

We used to be 3 years, now 5 before citizenship grant can be done.

I still reckon Switzerland's 10 year wait, local comimunity vote, and possibility of entire nuclear family being ejected for failure of just 1 to abide laws is a good minimum standard. That's how I understand the Swiss run it.

Until I looked it up, I did not realize immigration is handled locally by the cantons rather than at the federal level.

Quote:

Unlike other countries where naturalization is a federal responsibility, individual communities or cantons in Switzerland decide whether or not to approve an immigrant's application for naturalization although the federal government gives general guidelines and the standard residency requirement is 12 years. Depending on the canton, the naturalization process can cost several thousand Swiss francs per person although the fee cannot exceed the actual cost.

Communities and cantons approve individual citizenship applicants either by means of a public assembly or a special panel decision. Panels and assemblies composed of municipality representatives may look at data about nationality, duration of residence in Switzerland, and degree of integration, but they are not privy to all private information, including the applicant's religion.

MtnGoat 09-15-2015 09:11

This is a great plan by ISIS is all I'll say. Well played!!

Agoge2 09-15-2015 10:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by MtnGoat (Post 593058)
This is a great plan by ISIS is all I'll say. Well played!!

X10!

Well played, indeed!

Richard 09-15-2015 11:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by MtnGoat (Post 593058)
This is a great plan by ISIS is all I'll say.

It might not be a 'plan' on their part, it might just be an opportunity created by the developing regional situation in SWA which they've had a definite hand in creating.

However, all that may be a moot point if they can readily adapt this situation for their own purposes and the results wind up supporting whatever end-goal(s) they proclaim to have in mind.

Richard

mojaveman 09-16-2015 16:59

Experts say no jihadists are amoung the refugees...
 
Me don't think so.

...even Pope Francis warned this week of the "risk of infiltration".


http://news.yahoo.com/jihadists-hidi...105837798.html

Flagg 09-16-2015 23:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Streck-Fu (Post 593043)
Until I looked it up, I did not realize immigration is handled locally by the cantons rather than at the federal level.

Quite possibly the wisest immigration policy I've ever heard of.

Government/immigration bureaucrats can only do so much to assess immigrants suitability in having earned citizenship.

Immediate neighbours and local community having considerable influence over the granting of citizenship?

Pretty cool I reckon.

Same with the LONG "trial period" and what I understand to be automatic deportation of foreign nationals convicted of certain crimes including sex crimes, robbery, drug dealing and social welfare abuse.

Rolling-Stone 03-11-2017 16:14

What is currently happening in Europe infuriates me to no end, but at least we are seeing the change. Britain bailed out of the EU, Donald Trump won the American presidency, Marine La Penn (French Nationalist) is doing well in the primaries of their election, Merkel has her tail between her legs. Something to look forward to.

Badger52 03-11-2017 16:52

Yes, I wish Marine Le Pen well, along with Geert Wilders & others who are a hemorrhoid for Frau Merkel in some of the other countries. Merkel is preoccupied with having a "malleable" Polish minister to the EU council get elected right now - these other blasphemous countries such as Hungary & Poland, et al, are hopefully keeping her up at night. She should go walk out on the ice.

Guymullins 03-12-2017 23:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by mojaveman (Post 592841)
Erfurt is a beautiful old European city. Taught English there for two years about ten years ago. Can't believe
this is happening.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/12/wo...ants.html?_r=0

My 101 year old P08 Luger was manufactured in Erfurt. It is turning in its holster at this news.

RomanCandle 03-13-2017 11:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOMAHAWK9521 (Post 593035)
If I recall, that is what NZ requires of you before they grant you citizenship. You have to have a skill they want/need in order to be allowed in.

Unless you are from the ME or Africa then the only skill you need to demonstrate is being from the ME or Africa. (South African white doesn't count - there you'd better have a qualifying skill)

Badger52 03-13-2017 12:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guymullins (Post 625006)
My 101 year old P08 Luger was manufactured in Erfurt. It is turning in its holster at this news.

Probably restless because it sees work to be done.
:D

Team Sergeant 03-14-2017 14:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by mojaveman (Post 593200)
Me don't think so.

...even Pope Francis warned this week of the "risk of infiltration".


http://news.yahoo.com/jihadists-hidi...105837798.html

Pope Francis, a global genius for sure......... right up there with an idiot that invented fakebook and now meets with "world leaders".......

And yeah, I don't receive my political commentary from "comics" either.......

Do yourself a favor and stop reading yahoo, google, left-wing fakenews.

TOMAHAWK9521 02-13-2018 10:05

Lamb for the slaughter
 
Anyone want to take bets to see how long before this apostate errant sheep ends up being sacrificed to the gods of multiculturalism?
https://www.truthrevolt.org/news/ger...uslim-refugees

Badger52 02-13-2018 16:58

From the full blog article:
Quote:

Berlin judge Kirsten Heisig, who fought juvenile, gang and migrant crime, was declared missing after she did not show up at work on the morning of June 29, 2010. Four days later, she was found hung dead from a tree in a forest near Berlin. Only two hours after her body was discovered, the justice senator of Berlin announced that she had “obviously” committed suicide.
The Klinton verdicts seem to be working in sync with the apologist judiciary Merkelons in the former Deutschland, which continues to take on water way too fast.

tom kelly 02-13-2018 22:06

RETURN OF THE FOURTH REICH ?????
 
IT WON'T BE LONG NOW !!! THIS TIME, NO MORE Mr.NICE GUY: EXPERIENCE

Badger52 02-26-2019 20:24

Watch what you ask for...
 
German pensioner forced to move from flat to make room for Middle Eastern migrants


Quote:

Klaus Roth, a 74-old senior social worker who helped with Germany’s migrant influx in 2015 must move out of the flat he has lived in for 24 years to make room for Middle Eastern migrants.

A 1990s court ruling allows German municipalities to evict tenants to accommodate refugees if other options are exhausted.


Esslingen County has been assigned six new immigrants, in addition to 40 migrants already accommodated in the village.

The local council has reportedly decided to house the migrants in Roth’s flat, Mayor Gerhard Gertitschke said in an interview for Nürtinger Zeitung.
In order to allow that, Roth must move to an apartment half as big.

The senior German reportedly does not understand the municipality’s demands. “I put a lot of money and work into the apartment. I renovated it from scratch all by myself”, he told Zeitung.

Roth also has trouble moving after two intervertebral disc surgeries, the report says.

A ruling by the Göttingen District Court from the early 1990s says a municipality can terminate a rent deal with a tenant in order to accommodate refugees if other options are exhausted.
“We’re under pressure to take more refugees,” the mayor says. “There is no longer any way to say that we are not accommodating them.”

“The municipality offered Roth the assistance of local workers to help with the move,” he said.

Despite his age, Roth still works as a driver at a local nursing association and helps look after other elderly people.

Roth was actively involved in Working Group Asyl, helping migrants find accommodation when the migrant crisis broke out in 2015, with hundreds of thousands of migrants flocking to Germany.
Maybe Obergruppenfuehrer Merkel has a cottage available on her estate.
:rolleyes:

LINK

Guymullins 02-26-2019 22:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by mojaveman (Post 592841)
Erfurt is a beautiful old European city. Taught English there for two years about ten years ago. Can't believe
this is happening.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/12/wo...ants.html?_r=0

Ironically, Erfurt is the city where my prised 1916 P08 Luger was made. It had an arms manufacturing capability of note. Now Erfurt is overrun by a tide of barbarians it was designed to repel.

cbtengr 02-27-2019 06:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badger52 (Post 649971)
German pensioner forced to move from flat to make room for Middle Eastern migrants




Maybe Obergruppenfuehrer Merkel has a cottage available on her estate.
:rolleyes:

LINK

His humble apartment that he worked so hard on will soon be transformed into a 3d world shithole. How long before the dems here start forcing us out of our homes? No borders no country.

Paslode 02-27-2019 07:56

It’s poetic justice the old man became a victim of the system he helped create.

JJ_BPK 02-27-2019 08:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbtengr (Post 649976)
His humble apartment that he worked so hard on will soon be transformed into a 3d world shithole. How long before the dems here start forcing us out of our homes? No borders no country.

Oregon is trying to accommodate your request :mad:

link: Oregon to become first state to impose rent control

Box 02-27-2019 10:37

Hip Hip Hooray

I can wait until pork is made illegal in the Bundesrepublik Deutschland because of Sharia compliance - maybe echewing on bratwurst made out of goat meat will open their eyes a bit.

Maybe all Europeans will be vegans bofore it gets that far - who knows.

Badger52 02-27-2019 11:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paslode (Post 649980)
It’s poetic justice the old man became a victim of the system he helped create.

Exactly what originally caught my eye. File under: "How'd that work out for ya?"

It's in the same file drawer with the cute little blonde-haired blue-eyed refugee-loving found-bludgeoned-to-death gang rape victims.


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