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Snaquebite 04-08-2013 13:47

USASOC - Breaking the Stigma .
 
PTSD Video - EXCELLENT
http://www.*******.com/watch?v=yEWHdF6FBHY

Surgicalcric 04-08-2013 14:32

Amazing vid.

Thanks George; I needed that.

ECUPirate09 04-08-2013 14:32

Dr. Moyer
 
Dr. Moyer showed us the video the day before the program started. It was impressive to me (fwiw - not much).

I was curious how it was received by the troops and if it will be effective for the future SF/SOF personnel?

Snaquebite 04-08-2013 14:42

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Originally Posted by ECUPirate09 (Post 500002)
Dr. Moyer showed us the video the day before the program started. It was impressive to me (fwiw - not much).

I was curious how it was received by the troops and if it will be effective for the future SF/SOF personnel?

Read the post before yours...'Nuff said IMHO.

BryanK 04-08-2013 15:03

Great video/lesson. I am not, and have never served in an SOF unit, but I did deploy, and I did/do have some issues afterward. Call me a bitch, pussy whatever, but I sought help after I ETS'd. I never saw combat. My day was filled with boring BS fixing guns for the fine warriors that tread outside the wire daily to ensure OUR safety. My particular issue was/is with panic attacks. Apparently it's genetic, but it decided to show it's horrid face when we got mortared/rocketed one particular time. Bad time to have one as I'm sure anyone who has ever experienced one will know.

They got more frequent after I returned home and found myself in a situation where crowds were involved (walmart, grocery store, etc.). My wife had enough, and I had enough, so I went to the VA. The gentleman in the video was right. There are more doc's waiting to help you than there is Soldiers to see. I sought treatment, and it does help. I cannot imagine being in the shoes of an SOF let alone SF Soldier who has been in rotation after rotation, mission after mission. There HAS to be some side effect. I will continue to pray for you all, and if you feel something isn't right, just get 'er checked out. Can't hurt.

voxtel 04-09-2013 18:03

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Originally Posted by BryanK (Post 500007)
Great video/lesson. I am not, and have never served in an SOF unit, but I did deploy, and I did/do have some issues afterward. Call me a bitch, pussy whatever, but I sought help after I ETS'd. I never saw combat. My day was filled with boring BS fixing guns for the fine warriors that tread outside the wire daily to ensure OUR safety. My particular issue was/is with panic attacks. Apparently it's genetic, but it decided to show it's horrid face when we got mortared/rocketed one particular time. Bad time to have one as I'm sure anyone who has ever experienced one will know.

They got more frequent after I returned home and found myself in a situation where crowds were involved (walmart, grocery store, etc.). My wife had enough, and I had enough, so I went to the VA. The gentleman in the video was right. There are more doc's waiting to help you than there is Soldiers to see. I sought treatment, and it does help. I cannot imagine being in the shoes of an SOF let alone SF Soldier who has been in rotation after rotation, mission after mission. There HAS to be some side effect. I will continue to pray for you all, and if you feel something isn't right, just get 'er checked out. Can't hurt.

Nobody in their right mind would call you a pussy for seeking help. Especially not if they've ever taken indirect themselves.

I know how you feel bro. As a matter of fact I'm a former weapons tech (45B1P/91F) myself. I had an easy tour in '07 and saw very little action. My upcoming tour is of a slight concern though. I've reclassed into a job that puts me a bit closer to the two-way range and I have absolutely no experience with CQB.

I've known some hard pipe-hittin' dudes come home changed. I'm glad that the Army is finally doing something about PTSD. They finally removed the PTSD-related questions from SF-86.

The hardest part would be to steer the perception within the SOF units. I imagine the ultra-predatory alphas with no self-pity or tolerance for weakness (the type of character that usually makes it past all of the selections and assessments) may start viewing the psychological scarring as a badge of honor, as it has happened many times throughout history. (Remember the revered thousand-yard stare in the USMC?)

Surgicalcric 04-10-2013 07:24

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Originally Posted by voxtel (Post 500270)
<<SNIP>>

So much guessing in that post I dont know where to start.

Suffice to say, you should consider sticking to subject matters you have some experience in. What makes us tick isnt one of those topics regardless of how many pipe-hitters you know. Until you have made it past A selection you have no idea whats involved or the type of character that gets selected.

Also, CQB experience isn't necessary to exchange lead on the two way range and the vast majority of combat in Astan isn't up close and personal.

Questions?

JJ_BPK 04-10-2013 07:38

Thanks George,, Will share..

voxtel 04-10-2013 14:28

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Originally Posted by Surgicalcric (Post 500342)
Questions?

Nope. Shall exercise the given guidance in future posts.

PRB 04-10-2013 15:51

I appreciate this Command emphasis.
I have always been not so accepting of PTSD because I've met so many gaming the system (mostly non combat vets serving one tour)...and may have contributed to the fear some have of really addressing an issue.
I hope that nothing I've written or said neg impacted someone that had a real issue.
IOTW I've changed my tune.

Badger52 03-09-2019 19:24

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Originally Posted by Snaquebite (Post 499985)

Thank you for posting this (found while going down another rabbit trail).

It has helped me understand a couple other things about daughter's diagnosis and reinforces what's needed of me. (Didn't intend to just bump this to the top but maybe it's not a bad thing.)

Many thanks.

Trapper John 03-10-2019 06:51

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Originally Posted by Surgicalcric (Post 500342)
So much guessing in that post I dont know where to start.

Suffice to say, you should consider sticking to subject matters you have some experience in. What makes us tick isnt one of those topics regardless of how many pipe-hitters you know. Until you have made it past A selection you have no idea whats involved or the type of character that gets selected.

Also, CQB experience isn't necessary to exchange lead on the two way range and the vast majority of combat in Astan isn't up close and personal.

Questions?

Thank you for posting this reply Brother! You are much more polite than I was about to be! :mad:

Flagg 03-10-2019 12:46

Great video.

I’ll be sharing it within our own community.

While I believe culture and support is improving around those suffering from and diagnosed with PTSI/D, there’s still considerable room for improvement.

One area I’m particularly interested in would be proactive and preventative measures focused on low level mental injury and wellness.

Probably because I had a few weird minor incidents after my final trip to Afghan best described as involuntary hyperventilating only occurring at home.

While working on projects to enhance physical and mental performance, I look forward to seeing the future of the “agoge” incorporate foundational as well as ongoing “mental gym” best practises to support our service people.

I’ve met with a professor at Stanford, Jeff Pfeffers who has recently written a book called “Dying for a Paycheck.”

It’s a fascinating data driven study of how more people die from workplace stress than smoking, obesity, and excessive alcohol drinking.

Serving in the military comes with inherent increased physical injury for many, but we can do better to inoculate against mental injury.


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